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Re: Reality or Perception? [stephen987] by plekto
Jan 08, 2009 (12:19 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jan 07, 2009 10:46 am)

I prefer the next generation of the MB sedans (W114/115, aka the "/8" sedans introduced in 1968) because of their more sophisticated rear suspension. Back in the '80s I did a lot of driving in a gold '74 280 with very impressive space efficiency, handling, and comfort. That car really set my expectations as to what a car ought to be able to do. Only in the last few years have most midsize sedans been able to exceed those expectations.
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Well, I did mention the older ones to make my point more than anything. IMO, a 250SE was about the best of the lot - and the first of the 2nd generation W114/W115 era). Astounding cars, even today, and also why that era's SL roadsters still command a hefty premium. Drive an early 70s SL and it's just amazing how it doesn't show its age. IMO, a trick only a few cars have managed. The 2002Ti and the Porsche 928 are in this group. They seem to defy age in how they drive. And the sedan versions also are very good and under appreciated.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [aviboy97] by bpizzuti
Jan 08, 2009 (3:10 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jan 07, 2009 7:09 pm)

Mazda just joined the midsize class, and that's basically a Fusion anyway. Saying CX-9 has it means nothing since we are specifically discussing the mainstream midsize class: whatshisname was saying Ford was just playing catch up and everything they'd done, someone else had first in the midsize class.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [explorerx4] by jeffyscott
Jan 08, 2009 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 07, 2009 5:22 pm)

i back out of the garage, walk over to the explorer which is always parked outside, punch in the entry code, use that remote to close my garage door, lock it back up and drive away in my car.
 
Hmm, I guess I'd just put the remote that works in the car that actually goes in the garage, rather than leaving it in the one that sits in the driveway.
 
If I ever needed to steal a car, I guess I'd start by smashing the windows of the ones with that keypad...figuring one of you guys probably left the keys in the locked car.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [akirby] by baggs32
Jan 08, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 07, 2009 6:35 pm)

Does mygig allow you to copy mp3s from usb drives or only from audio cds?
 
I think only from CDs as well but I'm not positive.
 
And sync can call 911 in an accident - without a built-in phone, extra phone line and national call center to relay the call.
 
It calls from your cell phone though right? My 74 year old mother does not have a cell phone so she'd be out of luck. I doubt she and my dad would pay the $20 per month OnStar fee, along with all the other GM owners I know, to have it call either though. The tech is out there and improving by the minute. However it's not foolproof just yet. Unless I'm missing something?
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bpizzuti] by mz6greyghost
Jan 08, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 08, 2009 3:10 am)

Mazda just joined the midsize class, and that's basically a Fusion anyway.
 
Mazda has been in the midsize class for years. The 6 has been around since '03, and the 626 was before that.
 
And technically, the Fusion is "basically" a 6, since Mazda shared development with Ford on the CD3 platform (or GG/GY in Mazdaspeak), and the 6 was the first to market, a full 3 years before the Fusion went on sale.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [mz6greyghost] by bpizzuti
Jan 08, 2009 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jan 08, 2009 10:05 am)

Actually, the current 6 is based on the Fusion, which is based on the previous 6.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [baggs32] by akirby
Jan 08, 2009 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 08, 2009 9:20 am)

Yes, you must have a cell phone of some kind to make the call - either the user's phone (with Sync and bluetooth) or a built-in phone (like OnStar). The advantage with Sync is you only need one cell phone and you can upgrade it whenever you like - Sync doesn't care. With OnStar you need a separate vehicle cell phone number and account in addition to your personal phone and you can't upgrade the one in the vehicle - at least not easily.
 
If you already own a cell phone then there is no additional charge with Sync and you're not tied to one phone or phone number.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bpizzuti] by akirby
Jan 08, 2009 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 08, 2009 10:16 am)

The 06-09 Fusion uses a modified Mazda6 platform (lengthened and widened among other things) called CD3. The 09 Mazda6 and 2010 Fusion both use an updated version of Ford's CD3 platform, which is why the 6 is longer and wider than it used to be.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [jeffyscott] by explorerx4
Jan 08, 2009 (1:59 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jan 08, 2009 7:31 am)

the explorer gets driven every day. it just usually goes out after i do and returns before me.
 
yes you could smash the window, but then the alarm is going off and you still have to find the keys. try it and let us know how it works out.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [explorerx4] by baggs32
Jan 08, 2009 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 08, 2009 1:59 pm)

yes you could smash the window, but then the alarm is going off and you still have to find the keys. try it and let us know how it works out
 
Then have fun driving down the road in single digit temps with no driver's side window!
 
I too use that keypad on our Explorer all the time. It's often easier to use it when your hands are tied than to dig in your pocket for the fob.

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