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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Say it isn't so! [bpizzuti] by explorerx4
Jan 07, 2009 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 07, 2009 1:36 pm)

i am a ford guy and i really like one feature they have that none of the others do, the keypad entry.
i like not having to carry my keys with me when i leave the vehicle.
drop the keys somewhere inside and retrieve them when you need them.
if the kids need something out of the car, they know the combination and can get in to get it without the keys.
right now i am using it because the garage door opener remote in my car isn't working for the most part.
i back out of the garage, walk over to the explorer which is always parked outside, punch in the entry code, use that remote to close my garage door, lock it back up and drive away in my car. i don't need to carry the explorer keys to do this.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bpizzuti] by akirby
Jan 07, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 07, 2009 1:36 pm)

You forgot AWD and Sync - neither of which is available on the Camcordimas.
 
Ford didn't just catch up - they've leaped ahead in every category that I can see (with the 2010 model).
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Re: Say it isn't so! [akirby] by bpizzuti
Jan 07, 2009 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 07, 2009 5:35 pm)

Well, they haven't surpassed in warranty...Hyundai still has it. SYnc is very good, though Chrysler has MyGIG.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bpizzuti] by akirby
Jan 07, 2009 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 07, 2009 5:48 pm)

True, but a warranty is just an insurance policy and has nothing to do with the vehicle itself. They're purchased, not engineered. And while Hyundai has made huge strides they're still not as reliable as Ford, Honda and Toyota - yet.
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by vanman1
Jan 07, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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"Blind spot stuff, NONE of them have it. Ford has SURPASSED the competition in several areas, get over it. You hate Ford, that's fine, but try and at least be objective. I hate GM but I'm not going to deny the fact that THEY were in fact the first ones in the class to put 6 speed auto trannies on ALL engines in the Malibu except for the "hybrid" one"
 
Ford is really putting a lot into the new Fusion. I look forward to seeing one.
 
I have a 6-speed 3.6L Malibu and the transmission is amazing. Ford is using the same one, the factory that makes them is a joint venture Ford/GM.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bpizzuti] by baggs32
Jan 07, 2009 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 07, 2009 5:48 pm)

though Chrysler has MyGIG.
 
Ford does now offer a hard drive with their Nav system. However it is not like MyGIG where you can get it without the Nav so it's not quite as readily available or affordable.
 
I'm not a big fan of the whole hard drive in a radio thing but I do know a few people with new Chrysler vehicles and they love their MyGIG. Maybe I need to play with one to truly appreciate it.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [baggs32] by akirby
Jan 07, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Jan 07, 2009 6:13 pm)

Does mygig allow you to copy mp3s from usb drives or only from audio cds? Lincoln's 10G hard drive only allows you to copy audio cds, but then again sync also lets you use plug in mp3 players or thumb drives with mp3s in addition to the hard drive recorded songs so that's the best of both worlds.
 
And sync can call 911 in an accident - without a built-in phone, extra phone line and national call center to relay the call.
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Re: [vanman1] by explorerx4
Jan 07, 2009 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 07, 2009 6:12 pm)

a new model malibu owner! tell us more. i think you are the first one.
we know you like the transmission.
 what are your other likes/dislikes?
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Re: Say it isn't so! [bpizzuti] by aviboy97
Jan 07, 2009 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 07, 2009 1:36 pm)

Blind spot stuff, NONE of them have it.
 
Mazda has it in the 2009 Mazda6 and has been using it since 2008 in the CX-9.
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Re: Reality or Perception? [stephen987] by plekto
Jan 08, 2009 (12:19 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Jan 07, 2009 10:46 am)

I prefer the next generation of the MB sedans (W114/115, aka the "/8" sedans introduced in 1968) because of their more sophisticated rear suspension. Back in the '80s I did a lot of driving in a gold '74 280 with very impressive space efficiency, handling, and comfort. That car really set my expectations as to what a car ought to be able to do. Only in the last few years have most midsize sedans been able to exceed those expectations.
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Well, I did mention the older ones to make my point more than anything. IMO, a 250SE was about the best of the lot - and the first of the 2nd generation W114/W115 era). Astounding cars, even today, and also why that era's SL roadsters still command a hefty premium. Drive an early 70s SL and it's just amazing how it doesn't show its age. IMO, a trick only a few cars have managed. The 2002Ti and the Porsche 928 are in this group. They seem to defy age in how they drive. And the sedan versions also are very good and under appreciated.

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