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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Reality or Perception? [gooddeal2] by backy
Jan 06, 2009 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Jan 06, 2009 11:19 am)

175 hp is plenty for me. I think the specialness of the Altima is more due to its handling and styling, vs. power. I am weird, but if fuel economy in mid-sizers could be increased significantly by trimming power a bit, I'm all for that. My 3000 pound Jetta with a 4AT has only 115 hp and it gets me around just fine--although I don't think I'll take it on a dragstrip.
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Re: Reality or Perception? [gooddeal2] by maxamillion85
Jan 06, 2009 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Jan 06, 2009 11:19 am)

couldnt they just use the 200 hp verison of the 2.5 found in the Sentra SER Spec V?
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Say it isn't so! by mz6greyghost
Jan 06, 2009 (3:20 pm)
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You'd better sit down for this...
 
According to certain news sources, the February issue of Consumer Reports lists some recommendations for the 2009 new cars. Although their tests are about "halfway through", they've listed a few noteworthy choices early, including the Chevy Malibu LTZ V6, and not one but SIX Ford models, including the Ford Fusion SEL and Mercury Milan Premier. (Others not related to this discussion include the Taurus and Taurus X, Mercury Sable, and Lincoln MKZ).
 
A spokesman even was quoted as saying: "It’s not immediately apparent that the Ford Fusion would be more reliable than the Toyota Camry, but it is, and the Fusion is one of the more reliable family sedans on the market.”
 
The sky must be falling if even CR recommends a Ford midsize sedan.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [mz6greyghost] by explorerx4
Jan 06, 2009 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jan 06, 2009 3:20 pm)

i have some neighbors who won't wipe their a...ahhh um, nose without consulting c-r to figure out what kind of tissue to use.
can't see them buying a ford soon, but who knows.
one time i counted the cars on my street. only 7 including 2 corvettes out of about 50 were domestic brands, and i have 4 of them.
i was at the oral sugreon the other day and he was talking up ford,
one of my co workers, a lexus driver, was talking up ford to me.
i find it kind of weird.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [mz6greyghost] by backy
Jan 06, 2009 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jan 06, 2009 3:20 pm)

You are a little late to the party. CR recommended the Fusion/Milan, Taurus/Sable, and Mustang (also the Edge, Expedition, Sport Trac, F-150, and Taurus X plus four Lincolns) way back in their April 2008 issue. They also touted the great reliability of the Fusion and Milan back then too. So the sky fell a long time ago. You must have been under protective cover at the time.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [explorerx4] by elroy5
Jan 06, 2009 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 06, 2009 3:33 pm)

Doesn't "average" reliability (or average anything) get you recommended by CR? The Malibu was recommended way back in 97, but knowing of one first hand, I would not recommend it. It's too easy to get that Check Mark from CR.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [elroy5] by explorerx4
Jan 06, 2009 (4:45 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 06, 2009 4:26 pm)

i have no idea about their recommended rating.
all i know is some people are loath to not follow their recomendations.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [elroy5] by akirby
Jan 06, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 06, 2009 4:26 pm)

If it was that easy then the Camry V6 would still be on there, but it's not. I don't think just average reliability would cut it, although it doesn't have to be perfect either.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [elroy5] by thegraduate
Jan 06, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 06, 2009 4:26 pm)

Yes, average reliability is a minimum requirement for getting "recommended." My folks' new 2008 Taurus had such a rating, and was recommended for 2008.
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Re: Say it isn't so! [thegraduate] by bpizzuti
Jan 06, 2009 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jan 06, 2009 5:38 pm)

As I recall the Fusion now has the coveted red circle with the white dot in the middle now.

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