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Replying to: backy (Jan 04, 2009 10:35 am) i would like to see at the very least, a camry & fusion hybrid versus camry & fusion 4 cyl versions. 4 on 4 would be better. 
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"The Accord is a very tough vehicle to beat, simply because Honda as "gotten it right" for so many years. No one can deny that". You don't get a free pass because your past cars have been good. The new Accord in my eyes is a design disaster. Probably why I see far more new Camrys than Accords on the road. Probably 5 to 1. |
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 05, 2009 6:34 pm) The reverse should also be true. There are a lot of domestic bashers out there that haven't owned or probably even driven a domestic in years and are still bashing them. Ford, especially, has made great strides in quality and is putting out some very nice vehicles with innovative equipment as of late. However, I believe reputation stands for something and should enter into the equation of a car purchasing decision if other things appear equal.
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Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 05, 2009 6:34 pm) You must have selective vision or live in quite the car-sales black-hole for Honda. Honda's Accord has kept up with Camry just about neck and neck with sales for 2008.  
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Replying to: m6user (Jan 05, 2009 7:49 pm)
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 06, 2009 3:30 am) Not a whole lot of people perceive this, in my experience. Pretty much both Toyota and Honda are tops in perception, with different kinds of drivers preferring each, but both with very positive views. Now the car mags, that's another thing... Toyota generally gets knocked due to softer handling vs. Honda, but both are considered quality brands. This is very apparent if you look at Camry vs. Accord reviews. It's almost always "Camry is really smooth, but boring; Accord has all those buttons but is more a driver's car." With some exceptions, e.g. Camry taking the MT COTY a year or so ago. |
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Well the December and annual sales data answers that question. Model/Dec. 08/% ch from 07/YTD/% ch from YTD 07 Camry/25,275/-34.5%/436,617/-7.7% Accord/22,338/-28.5%/372,789/-5.0% Malibu/17,355/+48.5%/177,088/+51.5% Altima/17,311/-31.2%/269,668/-5.3% Fusion/10,274/-24.1/147,569/-1.3% The Sonata did not make the top 20 and Malibu's are only one third of Camry. Source: http://www.online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3022-autosales.html
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Replying to: bwia (Jan 06, 2009 6:28 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jan 06, 2009 9:00 am) No official numbers are out yet but don't be surprised if Malibu fleet sales are very high for December.  A large jump in month to month sales like that typically means a lot of them were dumped to fleets. I'm not saying that's definitely what happened, and for GM's sake I hope not, but history tells us that it probably was the reason for the higher number that month. Take a look at the Impala too. 9000 more sold in December than in November? 6000 more Malibus sold in December than in November? Makes one wonder doesn't it? Note that sales of others like the Fusion, Accord, Camry, etc stayed fairly flat from month to month. |
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