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#11292 of 13221 Re: C/D on hybrid mid-sized sedans [backy] by explorerx4 Jan 04, 2009 (9:24 am)
Replying to: backy (Jan 03, 2009 9:13 pm) i guess i am mistaken about the roof wiring in a prius. regardless, since it is not available with a factory moonroof, i would not buy one. overall, i can appreciate that it is a pretty practical vehicle, just not for me.
#11293 of 13221 Yet another mid-sized hybrid sedan coming by backy Jan 04, 2009 (10:35 am)
Not sure this was mentioned here before, but we'll have another mid-sized hybrid to choose from in 2010: the Sonata hybrid, which will probably be the first hybrid to use a lithium polymer battery. The Elantra hybrid will actually be Hyundai's first hybrid, due this July, but it will be sold only in Korea initially so the Sonata is to be the first Hyundai hybrid sold in the U.S. The details (see link to article below) look interesting... the Sonata will be a full, two-mode hybrid, but reportedly will use a unique variant of the two-mode design to allow optimal fuel economy both in city and highway driving. The lithium polymer battery will take up a lot less room than battery packs used in other hybrids, so perhaps trunk space will not be compromised as it is with today's full-hybrid sedans. And Hyundai plans a plug-in version for later release.   The 2011 Sonata due in 2010, will be part of Hyundai's 24/7 Version 2.0 initiative, which will push out 7 new models by the end of 2011. Recall that the 2006 Sonata was the 2nd vehicle in Hyundai's original 24/7 program, which resulted in 8 (whoops) new or redesigned models in a span of 2 years.   Things are getting interestinger and interestinger in the mid-sized hybrid market!   http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/green_machines/2011_h- - yundai_sonata_hybrid_car_news Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jan 05, 2009 6:19 pm)
#11294 of 13221 Accord buttons by vanman1 Jan 04, 2009 (4:46 pm)
One of the main reasons I passed on the Accord was the dash. In a nutshell, the buttons all over the place were driving me crazy from the second I sat in it. The exterior is not nearly as attractive as the new Mazda 6 or the Malibu LT which I ended up with.   Honda can always be counted on for reliability and refinement but I think the design of the new Accord is poor. Replies to this message: gooddeal2 (Jan 04, 2009 5:20 pm) plekto (Jan 04, 2009 11:56 pm)
#11295 of 13221 Re: Accord buttons [vanman1] by gooddeal2 Jan 04, 2009 (5:20 pm)
Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 04, 2009 4:46 pm) One of the main reasons I passed on the Accord was the dash. In a nutshell, the buttons all over the place were driving me crazy from the second I sat in it.   I agree. Replies to this message: plekto (Jan 04, 2009 11:56 pm)
#11296 of 13221 Re: Accord buttons [gooddeal2] by plekto Jan 04, 2009 (11:56 pm)
Replying to: gooddeal2 (Jan 04, 2009 5:20 pm) It's like a Japanese video arcade. I thought dashes like that died a well deserved death in the mid 80s?
#11297 of 13221 Re: Accord verses Mazda6 continued [maxamillion85] by aviboy97 Jan 05, 2009 (8:44 am)
Replying to: maxamillion85 (Jan 03, 2009 11:20 pm) Great review. I like it when members post a detailed and un bias post.   The Accord is a very tough vehicle to beat, simply because Honda as "gotten it right" for so many years. No one can deny that.   I will say that I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the comparison of interior materials. I think the Mazda6 uses high material quality, and is put together very well. I really don't see much difference between the build quality of the Accord and Mazda6. The door arm rest is padded BTW, on the Mazda6.   I would by a 6 simply because of the drive and the fact that it is built at least as good as the Accord. IMO
#11298 of 13221 Re: Yet another mid-sized hybrid sedan coming [backy] by explorerx4 Jan 05, 2009 (6:19 pm)
Replying to: backy (Jan 04, 2009 10:35 am) not sure if this is the first day it is available, but the sedan hybrid comparison is available on the c & d online mag. i would like to see at the very least, a camry & fusion hybrid versus camry & fusion 4 cyl versions. 4 on 4 would be better.
#11299 of 13221 by vanman1 Jan 05, 2009 (6:34 pm)
"The Accord is a very tough vehicle to beat, simply because Honda as "gotten it right" for so many years. No one can deny that".   You don't get a free pass because your past cars have been good. The new Accord in my eyes is a design disaster. Probably why I see far more new Camrys than Accords on the road. Probably 5 to 1. Replies to this message: m6user (Jan 05, 2009 7:49 pm) bpizzuti (Jan 06, 2009 3:30 am) backy (Jan 06, 2009 4:59 am) thegraduate (Jan 05, 2009 8:53 pm)
#11300 of 13221 Re: [vanman1] by m6user Jan 05, 2009 (7:49 pm)
Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 05, 2009 6:34 pm) You don't get a free pass because your past cars have been good   The reverse should also be true. There are a lot of domestic bashers out there that haven't owned or probably even driven a domestic in years and are still bashing them. Ford, especially, has made great strides in quality and is putting out some very nice vehicles with innovative equipment as of late.   However, I believe reputation stands for something and should enter into the equation of a car purchasing decision if other things appear equal. Replies to this message: bpizzuti (Jan 06, 2009 3:30 am) backy (Jan 06, 2009 4:59 am)
#11301 of 13221 Re: [vanman1] by thegraduate Jan 05, 2009 (8:53 pm)
Replying to: vanman1 (Jan 05, 2009 6:34 pm) Probably why I see far more new Camrys than Accords on the road. Probably 5 to 1.   You must have selective vision or live in quite the car-sales black-hole for Honda. Honda's Accord has kept up with Camry just about neck and neck with sales for 2008.

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