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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jan 03, 2009 7:55 am) Usually, there is. Hybrid models from most automakers include some of the more popular features, optional on lower models, as standard equipment. It helps to soften the price difference. |
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 03, 2009 11:31 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jan 03, 2009 12:33 pm) The only reason to buy a Prius is to show people that you have a hybrid, since it doesn't look like any normal midsize sedan. Quoted for truth! Having been behind the wheel of a Prius, I can agree with everything here, especially the driving experience. To me, Toyotas are a close second to Buick in terms of putting me in a coma when behind the wheel, but the Prius is beyond pathetic. The low rolling-resistance tires squeal at every corner, WITHOUT being pushed hard, and they also contribute heavily to the numb steering, miserable braking, and the overall disconnected feeling you get. I can see why tree-huggers love it, and why anyone with a soul doesn't. You forgot the most important part. The Prius cost about $10k less. That's one heck of an incentive to be greener. It may be $10K less on paper, but you're going to have a hard time finding ANY Prius at that base price, since they were (and in some cases, still are) going at a premium over MSRP. I've seen listing of USED examples going for higher than that. That's not the most important part to me. Styling, features and driving are more important to me than the price. Quoted for agreement. Kudos to Ford for the excellent press and praise they've been getting for the Fusion Hybrid, which seems well-deserved.
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Replying to: bpizzuti (Jan 03, 2009 12:47 pm) You mean the Mazda6, right? 
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jan 03, 2009 12:56 pm) We are forgetting one thing though comparing the Prius to the Fusion hybrid. The 2010 Prius is coming very shortly (will be unveiled officially in Detroit in a week or so). It should be an evolutionary improvement over the current Prius, and is expected to offer more power and also better fuel economy than the current Prius. As for interior room and handling improvements, we'll have to see about that. But I personally consider the Prius, and even the Insight, to be competitors to the likes of the Fusion and Camry hybrids. I don't need as much interior room as those sedans provide, I prefer a hatch configuration, and the 2010 Prius at least (don't know about the Insight) should easily exceed the FE for the hybrid mid-sized sedans--as it should as it's smaller, lighter, and lower-powered. I also like the swoopy looks of the 2010 Prius and Insight better than the mid-sized hybrid sedans. And the payback proposition is better with a lower-priced hybrid like the Prius or Insight. Especially for people like me who don't drive a lot, maybe 10k max per year for my wife's vehicle, which is what I am looking at a hybrid to be a few years out, once we are done with minivans. Now, if gas stays around $2 a gallon and Ford et. al. are forced to offer discounts on the mid-sized hybrid sedans to move them, e.g. a base Fusion hybrid for the low $20s, then that could be compelling. But at $28k and up? I'd probably pass. Or maybe buy a 2010 Fusion hybrid in 2012 or 2013. 
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Replying to: plekto (Jan 03, 2009 9:00 am) this simply is not true, other than maybe a short distance. obviously, a gas engine won't run without fuel. i think everyone already knows that. |
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Replying to: backy (Jan 03, 2009 1:42 pm) there aren't even any hybrid escapes for sale anywhere near me. i prefer having a trunk for security reasons. the back of the prius is open, although a tonneau cover is available.
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 03, 2009 2:00 pm) Yes, that is one way to keep prices up, by limiting supply. There was a tongue-in-cheek comment in the C/D review about Chevy saying that the Malibu hybrid is "very limited availability." C/D remarked something to the effect of that won't be a problem as not many people will buy it. 
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Not to change the subject from the hybrid debate, but I saw this advertised today. Hyundai Assurance program What do you think? Will this help spur sales? Would this or maybe something similar from another manufacturer make a buying decision easier for you if you were on the fence? Just curious.
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Jan 03, 2009 2:16 pm) Two ad spots: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVAWviuVmK4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c_nAmJbjvw |
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