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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#11229 of 20241 Re: 2004 Mazda6 with 120k miles... Is this a safe buy? [mjmacky]
Dec 27, 2008 (11:35 am)
On a car with 120k miles, Mazda or Honda or whatever, anything can go at any time. There is no magic time or number of miles as to how long a tranny (assuming you mean automatic here) will last in a specific car. Your odds are better if the car has been well treated and maintained over its lifetime. Are the maintenance records available? If so, check to be sure regular maintenance was done including the big services at 60k and 120k. Also you should have the car checked by a mechanic you can trust.
#11230 of 20241 Re: 2004 Mazda6 with 120k miles... Is this a safe buy? [mjmacky]
Dec 27, 2008 (7:00 pm)
is that question a setup?
#11231 of 20241 Re: Edmunds V6 comparo = 6 > Accord > Altima [zzzoom6]
Dec 28, 2008 (1:23 am)
I used to own a 2005 Mazda6 i sport edition and now have a 2008 Honda Accord LX. After reading edmunds comparsion, of the altima, accord and mazda6 seemed like the accord and mazda6 were really close. I admit I was suprised/shocked that the mazda6 beat the accord and that the overall MPG was higher for the mazda6 compared to accord.
The v6 accords MPG rating is 19/29 and the Mazda6 is 17/25, yet the mazda6 got 20 mpg overall and the accord got 18 mpg overall.
I still believe the accord has a slight edge over the mazda6 and then being a long track record of reliability and resale value, otherwise, a dead heat. Always thought the Altima was over priced. Seems like nissan took a step backwards with the new altima.
#11232 of 20241 Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [akirby]
Dec 29, 2008 (7:38 pm)
Amazing; this Fusion really blows the doors off its competition. Hopefully Ford gets credit (deserved) from buyers for this great car!
#11233 of 20241 Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [03accordman]
Dec 30, 2008 (6:55 am)
And it should be pointed out that the Fusion hybrid uses NO licensed Toyota patents. This should dispel that myth once and for all.
#11234 of 20241 Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [akirby]
Dec 30, 2008 (8:07 am)
Didn't the Escape hybrid use Toyota components? If so this is an offshoot...
#11235 of 20241 Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [mickeyrom]
Dec 30, 2008 (11:46 am)
The Escape used an Aisin transmission (so did the 05-09 Fusion), if that's what you're talking about. Aisin is partially owned by Toyota but they're just a parts supplier just like ZF or Getrag or any other 3rd party transmission supplier.
Not sure which tranny the 2010 Fusion Hybrid will use. But the issue was that Ford found similarities between their software and patents that Toyota held in that area so to avoid a potential lawsuit later they worked out an exchange of patent licenses (Ford got 20 or so and Toyota got some related to diesel truck engines). Many people incorrectly took this to mean that Ford simply bought Toyota's hybrid technology which is absolutely false - they developed it on their own.
Nissan did apparently buy Toyota's hybrid technology. Totally different scenario.
#11236 of 20241 Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [akirby]
Dec 30, 2008 (12:37 pm)
New Fusion is impressive. Certainly puts the pressure on GM with the upcoming 2-Mode Hybrid Malibu.
I heard the Fusion availability will be pretty limited though. I guess lower gas prices have also killed off some hybrid demand. Too bad because Ford has something big here.
#11237 of 20241 Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [akirby]
Dec 30, 2008 (2:18 pm)
What Ford did wisely is to ensure they didn't get sued by Toyota by working out an agreement with Toyota. I take that to mean, without this agreement they believed there could be a long, and expensive litigation process to which they decided coopetition is better than the unknown.
#11238 of 20241 Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [kdshapiro]
Dec 30, 2008 (3:12 pm)
That's exactly what happened, because they found out after they wrote some of the software that it was similar enough to what Toyota had patented that it might be challenged in court. However they actually wrote their own software - they didn't copy it or buy it from Toyota. And now the FFH doesn't even use that software anymore. Just trying to dispel that myth once and for all.