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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Edmunds V6 comparo = 6 > Accord > Altima [zzzoom6] by madpistol
Dec 26, 2008 (8:34 pm)
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Replying to: zzzoom6 (Dec 25, 2008 1:03 pm)

the "hollow sounding" plate on the altima door controls is Carbon Fiber (on the SL models), so regardless of what it sounds like, it's a much higher quality material than can be found in the other 2 cars.
 
Other than that, you're right on the money on virtually all fronts. The 6 is a great car, and if I got to pick my car again, I would have picked the '09 Mazda6 over the Altima. I was very torn between the Altima and the Accord (I flatly refused to get the Camry...) I think the Accord is a little more comfortable for long distance travel, but the Altima is far superior on twisty roads. I also believe Nissan has the best powertrain with their current generation of CVT. No other Automatic Transmission this side of a DSG is as responsive or quick.
 
There's a reason that the Altima is selling nearly as well as Camry and Accord, but as far as the best midsize sedan currently, I think the Mazda6 has it. Unfortunately, not many people realize this.
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2004 Mazda6 with 120k miles... Is this a safe buy? by mjmacky
Dec 27, 2008 (8:52 am)
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I'm looking to buy a 2004 Mazda6 with 120k miles... The asking price is 5,975. . . .? I don't know to much about Mazda's.. I am a honda person. How long would I have before the transmission cuts out?
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Re: '08 Accord [sandman46] by plekto
Dec 27, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: sandman46 (Dec 26, 2008 9:42 am)

Volvos have always had a Swedish chiropractor's ideology in mind. I don't think there's better seats to be had in anything that's not some exotic car.
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Re: 2004 Mazda6 with 120k miles... Is this a safe buy? [mjmacky] by backy
Dec 27, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: mjmacky (Dec 27, 2008 8:52 am)

On a car with 120k miles, Mazda or Honda or whatever, anything can go at any time. There is no magic time or number of miles as to how long a tranny (assuming you mean automatic here) will last in a specific car. Your odds are better if the car has been well treated and maintained over its lifetime. Are the maintenance records available? If so, check to be sure regular maintenance was done including the big services at 60k and 120k. Also you should have the car checked by a mechanic you can trust.
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Re: 2004 Mazda6 with 120k miles... Is this a safe buy? [mjmacky] by explorerx4
Dec 27, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: mjmacky (Dec 27, 2008 8:52 am)

is that question a setup?
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Re: Edmunds V6 comparo = 6 > Accord > Altima [zzzoom6] by mazda6dude
Dec 28, 2008 (1:23 am)
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Replying to: zzzoom6 (Dec 25, 2008 1:03 pm)

I used to own a 2005 Mazda6 i sport edition and now have a 2008 Honda Accord LX. After reading edmunds comparsion, of the altima, accord and mazda6 seemed like the accord and mazda6 were really close. I admit I was suprised/shocked that the mazda6 beat the accord and that the overall MPG was higher for the mazda6 compared to accord.
 
The v6 accords MPG rating is 19/29 and the Mazda6 is 17/25, yet the mazda6 got 20 mpg overall and the accord got 18 mpg overall.
 
I still believe the accord has a slight edge over the mazda6 and then being a long track record of reliability and resale value, otherwise, a dead heat. Always thought the Altima was over priced. Seems like nissan took a step backwards with the new altima.
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Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [akirby] by 03accordman
Dec 29, 2008 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Dec 23, 2008 10:00 am)

Amazing; this Fusion really blows the doors off its competition. Hopefully Ford gets credit (deserved) from buyers for this great car!
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Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [03accordman] by akirby
Dec 30, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: 03accordman (Dec 29, 2008 7:38 pm)

And it should be pointed out that the Fusion hybrid uses NO licensed Toyota patents. This should dispel that myth once and for all.
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Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [akirby] by mickeyrom
Dec 30, 2008 (8:07 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Dec 30, 2008 6:55 am)

Didn't the Escape hybrid use Toyota components? If so this is an offshoot...
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Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [mickeyrom] by akirby
Dec 30, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Dec 30, 2008 8:07 am)

The Escape used an Aisin transmission (so did the 05-09 Fusion), if that's what you're talking about. Aisin is partially owned by Toyota but they're just a parts supplier just like ZF or Getrag or any other 3rd party transmission supplier.
 
Not sure which tranny the 2010 Fusion Hybrid will use. But the issue was that Ford found similarities between their software and patents that Toyota held in that area so to avoid a potential lawsuit later they worked out an exchange of patent licenses (Ford got 20 or so and Toyota got some related to diesel truck engines). Many people incorrectly took this to mean that Ford simply bought Toyota's hybrid technology which is absolutely false - they developed it on their own.
 
Nissan did apparently buy Toyota's hybrid technology. Totally different scenario.

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