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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#11214 of 20239 Three mid-sized sedans make Ward's 10 best engines list
Dec 06, 2008 (10:33 am)
The Accord and 2010 Fusion/Milan hybrids are represented on the latest Ward's 10 Best Engines list--the 3.5L V6 for the Accord and the 2.5L hybrid powertrain for the Fulan:
It is encouraging that Ward's notes the Ford hybrid powertrain (tested in the Escape hybrid) managed to easily exceed its EPA ratings in their tests. That bodes well for the Fulan, which should be able to get better fuel economy numbers than the Escape.
#11215 of 20239 Re: mickeyrom... [iluvmysephia1]
Dec 06, 2008 (11:24 am)
Sorry I didn't reply sooner,but I never got notification of your post.There seem to be some issues with that on this site.
My Optima EX is black.I did not choose that,but with the equipment I wanted it was the only one my dealer could get his hands on.I've got over 24K on it and so far so good.I have had three people comment on it's good looks.This has never happened to me with any of the many cars I have owned.
#11216 of 20239 Re: CR tests 2009 Sonata, Malibu, Mazda6, Aura, Jetta TDI [backy]
Dec 06, 2008 (11:28 am)
Dec 09, 2008 (1:48 pm)
A reporter from a national newspaper would like to speak with consumers who have been frustrated by some manufacturers’ tendency to place safety related vehicle options into expensive packages. Have you ever wanted to equip a vehicle with specific safety features that required the purchase of an entire package? If so, please respond to jwahledmunds.com with your daytime contact information no later than Friday, December 12.
Dec 13, 2008 (1:27 pm)
no, Kia did a great job styling the 2006.5+ Kia Optima body. I first saw one on the road in Jackson Hole, WY, on vacation. It was a white one and it's driver was scooting right along downtown there. I had to look in my '01 Kia Sportage 4X4's side view, then rear view mirror. Very, very handsome vehicle, I might add.
#11219 of 20239 Re: mickeyrom... [iluvmysephia1]
Dec 13, 2008 (5:10 pm)
Good thing too, as it's probably my last car.
Dec 17, 2008 (10:13 am)
man, your last rig? Are you for sure? Don't you wanna join me in getting a 2010 Pininfarina-Bollore B0 all-electric car with $7,500 taken off of the price because it's a new "green" car the Obama Administration will give us a credit for? Sounds like a cool rig, I'll provide a link and/or picture if you like, later.
#11221 of 20239 EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid
Dec 23, 2008 (10:00 am)
41 mpg city, 36 hwy. Beats Camry by 8 mpg city and 2 hwy. Wow.
#11222 of 20239 Re: EPA certifies Fusion Hybrid [akirby]
Dec 23, 2008 (10:33 am)
I just read an article about this car,and the writer claims that he had no problem getting 52 MPG on combined.This car,he wrote,can go as fast as 47 MPH on electric power alone.He is concerned that Americans will not buy them because the lowered gas prices.Heck,the oil prices will go up again,unless we continue conserving.Where was this wundercar when we were paying $4 per gallon?
I guarantee that if were in the market for a new car,this hybrid would be first on my list.
#11223 of 20239 Edmunds V6 comparo = 6 > Accord > Altima
Dec 25, 2008 (1:03 pm)
I've driven all 3 cars and I'd have to agree w/ most of what the Edmunds testers concluded. Edmunds V6 comparison test: Mazda6 vs Accord vs Altima
At the time my mom was shopping for a car, the Mazda6 was not out yet so we drove the Accord and Altima (as well as the Sonata and Azera). Of these 4, I liked the Accord the best (though thought the Sonata was the best value). I thought the suspension was the most sorted of the 4 and that the quality of the interior was much better than the Altima which still has some really cheap feeling materials like on the plate that has the window contols by the door... really hollow sounding and has that thin, brittle plastic feeling. I agree that the engine/ transmission of the Altima was better than the Accord, but since the Accord was no slouch either, I preferred the build quality and it's ability to sort out rough roads better.
But a month later, I was in to get an oil change on my 2005 mazda6, and decided to take the time to give the new 6 a test drive. I was not unhappy w/ my current mazda6, but I was curious. First thing I noticed was the responsiveness of the engine: much more torque than my v-6 and quite a bit quicker from a standstill even though my '05 6 has a manual. Really, I'm impressed with everything about this newer version... I came really close to buying one. The interior was very nice, it was as quiet as the Accord or Altima, but had a better suspension that handled rough roads as well as the best but had less body lean in corners that gave the car a feeling of more control. Steering feel was very good, better than the Accord and Altima, but not as good as my current 6. I think what held me back from doing the trade was a lack of a hatchback. I'm sure I would have been very happy w/ the new 6, but I knew I was still happy with my "old" 6...
But this is what my scorecard looked like (best first, worst last):
Interior quality: accord (minuses b/c of cluttered dash), Mazda6 (very close to the Accord, but lacked a little finesse), Altima
Drivetrain: Altima, Mazda6 (surprisingly close to the Altima though), Accord
Suspension: mazda6, accord, altima
brakes/ steering feel: mazda6, accord, altima
seat comfort: accord, mazda6, altima
exterior looks: mazda6, altima, accord (by a lot...)
extras: mazda6 (xenon, btooth, blindspot warning system, keyless start/entry, best mpg), altima (keyless start/entry, cvt), accord (navi, resale value)
really, all 3 cars are very, very good. but given a choice, using different ways of analyzing which one to choose (practicality, fun to drive, utility), I would choose the 6 also. well done Mazda!