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by baggs32
Nov 20, 2008 (10:33 am)
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For those of you ripping on the Fusion Hybrid's leaf display, take a look at this. I'm proud to say that my 5 year old son could draw nicer leaves than that!
 
Is it just me or is there waaaay too much going on on that dash? What ever happened to those simple Honda dash layouts that were praised so much? We have 2 cars and I drive one primarily while my wife drives the other. Both have fairly simple dash layouts and center stacks (both Ford SUVs) which allows us to use the other one on occasion and not be confused. If I had to drive this once or twice a week I'd get a migrane trying to figure out what's going on. The Fusion Hybrid isn't immune to this either mind you, but it Honda has taken this to a whole new level IMO. Not good.
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Re: [baggs32] by stephen987
Nov 20, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 20, 2008 10:33 am)

It's really very similar to the current Civic dash, with the minor addition of automatic climate control. I actually think the radio controls look simpler to operate than those of the current nav-equipped Civic. There might be a few minutes needed with the owner's manual but it's not as bad as it first appears--the lighting makes it seem spacey.
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Re: [stephen987] by baggs32
Nov 20, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Nov 20, 2008 10:38 am)

It's really very similar to the current Civic dash, with the minor addition of automatic climate control. I actually think the radio controls look simpler to operate than those of the current nav-equipped Civic.
 
Yes, but I was talking about the gauges and such not the center stack. The center stack in those pics is definitely much simpler than that of the Accord or Pilot which can only be good. All that garbage going on in front of the driver's face is rather poorly done IMO. Even the owner of an Accord and Insight would be confused going from one to the other I think.
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Re: [baggs32] by stephen987
Nov 20, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 20, 2008 10:47 am)

Even the owner of an Accord and Insight would be confused going from one to the other I think.
 
Without a doubt. But as I was trying to say in my previous post, a Civic owner would feel right at home, since the two-tiered "garbage" display is virtually identical to the one in the current Civic.
 
Perhaps Civic owners, and not Accord owners, are the target market for the Insight. The choice of the "Insight" name, which was previously associated with a minimalist two-passenger hybrid, suggests to me that the car isn't really aimed at Accord buyers.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Revealed [mz6greyghost] by backy
Nov 20, 2008 (11:55 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Nov 20, 2008 4:52 am)

Simple math: The Fusion hit dealers in October of '06...
 
It was Oct. '05, wasn't it? That makes your math add up.
 
As for the grille: I think it's incredibly ugly. But not nearly as incredibly ugly as the grille on the new TL or several other newer Honda products.
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Re: [stephen987] by baggs32
Nov 20, 2008 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Nov 20, 2008 11:14 am)

Perhaps Civic owners, and not Accord owners, are the target market for the Insight. The choice of the "Insight" name, which was previously associated with a minimalist two-passenger hybrid, suggests to me that the car isn't really aimed at Accord buyers.
 
I do agree. However I don't believe many Civic drivers will be putting one of these in their garage next to their Civic. I think they'll be more likely to trade their Civic in for one of these and park it next to their Accord or Pilot.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Revealed [backy] by mz6greyghost
Nov 20, 2008 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 20, 2008 11:55 am)

It was Oct. '05, wasn't it? That makes your math add up.
 
Sorry. Still hadn't had my coffee yet...
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Re: [baggs32] by thegraduate
Nov 20, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 20, 2008 10:33 am)

Personally, I'm not a fan of either one, but what I do like about it is that the speedometer is seperate from it, as in the Civic.
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Re: [thegraduate] by stephen987
Nov 20, 2008 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 20, 2008 3:05 pm)

That's what I like least, actually. I hate that upper rim with the digital speedo in it. I'd always be looking at the tach, dead center, and wondering why it wasn't giving me MPH.
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Re: [stephen987] by baggs32
Nov 20, 2008 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Nov 20, 2008 7:10 pm)

I'd always be looking at the tach, dead center, and wondering why it wasn't giving me MPH.
 
Driving with a stick tranny would be a hassle too. Too many levels to look at. With an auto it wouldn't be as bad for me but I see where you're coming from. It's great if you love tech but could be annoying to those who don't. I'm guessing that's why the "youngster" Hondas have it and not the "old fart" Accord/Pilot/etc.
 
My dad's '87 Taurus had an all digital dash and I loved it. But it did have the tach as a rising meter that ran up and around the speedo which was less confusing IMO.

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