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13296 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM
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Replying to: backy (Nov 06, 2008 7:15 pm) 
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 06, 2008 7:49 pm)
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Thanks for the ESC discussion. We are still on the hunt for the car...my last post in this forum said we ruled out the mid-size sedans...but here I am again in this forum. More test drives, more reading and thinking...and it turns out the only viable option for us for a compact with ESC is the Civic EX-L. At that price I'm a blink away from an Accord or a Mazda6. Those are longer than I need for the amount of parallel parking I do...but would like to hear some opinions/facts on comparing safety in Mazda6, Accord and Civic. Used Acura's are also on the list and will be test driven this weekend. 2004/2005 TSX or TL. oh yeah...I'll also throw in doubts about the first year of a new generation. Seems like a good idea to avoid them....no? Moves the Mazda6 down the list... |
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Replying to: leonfam (Nov 06, 2008 10:40 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Nov 06, 2008 5:37 pm) We'll that's true, but without TC ESC isn't effective. It's the TC which modulates the brakes. Do you have an example of a manufacturer that has ESC but not TC?
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Replying to: stephen987 (Nov 07, 2008 6:23 am)  Just funnin'...These forums have been great for getting me to think more broadly. And...the other half believes in 'brands" and "quality"..and is so luke warm on a Hyundai it becomes a dead-end conversation. Last thing I need is the "i told you so" at the first sign of trouble...and I want to be able to switch back and forth between the cars. I'll be stuck in the Hyundai with no escape if I go that route. I could drag us out to drive one this weekend...and while it will surely be "fine"...i don't see it overcoming doubts or arrousing any passion...
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Replying to: leonfam (Nov 07, 2008 7:58 am) I was, on the other hand, very impressed with a four-cylinder Milan I drove for a couple of weeks in the summer. My apologies for the brief detour down Elantra Avenue. |
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Replying to: leonfam (Nov 06, 2008 10:40 pm) I do...but would like to hear some opinions/facts on comparing safety in Mazda6, Accord and Civic. To answer your request directly, all of the vehicles you mention are very safe, and MUCH safer than the average compact or midsize car was 5 or 6 years ago. It's actually hard to make a bad decision based on safety, these days. Here are the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety's "Top Picks" for the vehicle categories you are looking at (compact and midsize, non-lux models) These sedans did exceptionally well in testing, and offer ESC. MIDSIZE Ford Fusion 2009 models with optional electronic stability control Honda Accord 4-door models Mercury Milan 2009 models with optional electronic stability control Subaru Legacy with optional electronic stability control Volkswagen Jetta 2009 models Volkswagen Passat 2009 models ************************************ COMPACT Honda Civic 2009 4-door models with optional electronic stability control Mitsubishi Lancer 2009 models with optional electronic stability control Scion xB 2008-09 models Subaru Impreza with optional electronic stability control Volkswagen Rabbit 2009 4-door models **************************** You asked specifically about the Civic, Accord, and 6. The Civic and the Accord received "Good" scores (the highest rating possible) for the frontal-offset test on each of the measures below. The Mazda 6 received a marginal rating (2nd lowest possible) for the Leg/foot-right portion, but received "Good" overall. Injury measures: Restraints/dummy kinematics, Head/neck, Chest, Leg/foot-left Leg/foot-right The IIHS had this to say about the Mazda 6's "Marginal" rating in that particular area: **Forces on the right tibia indicate that injuries to the lower leg would be possible.** For the side-impact test, the new Mazda 6 has not yet been tested. The Accord received "Good" scores across the board for risk of injury for the measures below. The Civic received "Good" scores on all measures except Driver Torso, in which it received "Acceptable" ratings, the second highest. As far as that goes, the IIHS had this to say about that particular Acceptable rating: **Driver — Measures taken from the dummy indicate that rib fractures would be possible in a crash of this severity. The risk of significant injuries to other body regions is low.** Injury Measures: Head/neck, Torso, Pelvis/leg, Head Protection I hope this helps!
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Nov 07, 2008 7:26 am) |
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Replying to: backy (Nov 06, 2008 8:03 pm)
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