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13306 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 10:18 PM

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#11128 of 13306 Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [akirby] by elroy5 Nov 01, 2008 (7:46 pm)
Replying to: akirby (Nov 01, 2008 9:36 am) No, some people were implying that Ford simply purchased it's hybrid technology from Toyota which is an urban myth. Isn't copying it, then paying for it, amount to the same thing? Replies to this message: akirby (Nov 01, 2008 9:25 pm) kdshapiro (Nov 02, 2008 7:36 am)
#11129 of 13306 2009 Optima gets with the (ES)program by backy Nov 01, 2008 (7:47 pm)
Good news, the 2009 Optima gets ABS, ESC, and traction control standard across the board, joining the Accord, Mazda6, Passat, and Sonata (and Legacy?) as "true" mid-sizers with ESC on every trim. That takes care of the one glaring deficiency of the Optima, and the new-for-2009 175 hp I4 (shared with the Sonata) doesn't hurt either. Still has a pretty wimpy V6 for the class though (albeit with a little more power for 2009). http://www.kia.com/optima/optima-features.php Replies to this message: joe97 (Nov 02, 2008 7:03 am) baggs32 (Nov 03, 2008 9:40 am) backy (Nov 03, 2008 4:00 pm) explorerx4 (Nov 03, 2008 5:42 pm) and 26 more... akirby (Nov 03, 2008 9:22 pm) and 2 more... baggs32 (Nov 04, 2008 9:56 am) and 1 more...
#11130 of 13306 Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [elroy5] by akirby Nov 01, 2008 (9:25 pm)
Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 01, 2008 7:46 pm) They didn't copy it - just get over it already.
#11131 of 13306 Re: 2009 Optima gets with the (ES)program [backy] by joe97 Nov 02, 2008 (7:03 am)
Replying to: backy (Nov 01, 2008 7:47 pm) Legacy gets it.
#11132 of 13306 Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [elroy5] by kdshapiro Nov 02, 2008 (7:36 am)
Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 01, 2008 7:46 pm) They may not have copied it, but the corporate lawyers did not want to take a chance that a lawsuit could go in Toyotas' direction. Therefore they entered into a deal to $eliminate that possibility. It might not have been a direct copy but Ford chose not to take any chances.
#11133 of 13306 Re: 2010 Fusion Powertrains [gooddeal2] by maxamillion1 Nov 02, 2008 (6:35 pm)
Replying to: gooddeal2 (Nov 01, 2008 4:22 am) show's how rusty I've become with the automotive world...I forgot the 09 Came out in Feb.
#11134 of 13306 Re: 2009 Optima gets with the (ES)program [backy] by baggs32 Nov 03, 2008 (9:40 am)
Replying to: backy (Nov 01, 2008 7:47 pm) Good news, the 2009 Optima gets ABS, ESC, and traction control standard across the board, joining the Accord, Mazda6, Passat, and Sonata (and Legacy?) as "true" mid-sizers with ESC on every trim. Add the 2010 Fusion/Milan to that group too. All of them will have Ford's AdvanceTrac ESC and TC standard. Replies to this message: backy (Nov 03, 2008 4:00 pm) explorerx4 (Nov 03, 2008 5:42 pm) backy (Nov 03, 2008 7:21 pm) and 25 more... akirby (Nov 03, 2008 9:22 pm) backy (Nov 04, 2008 8:21 am) and 1 more... baggs32 (Nov 04, 2008 9:56 am) backy (Nov 04, 2008 2:04 pm)
#11135 of 13306 press request by kirstie_h HOST Nov 03, 2008 (12:13 pm)
A reporter is interested in talking with satisfied owners of a 2001-2006 Toyota Camry who are also parents. If you are interested in commenting on your experience, please reply to jwahledmunds.com no later than Friday, November 21, 2008 and include your city and state of residence, the model year of your vehicle and the age of your child/ren. Thanks for your consideration, Jonathan Wahl Corporate Communications Edmunds Inc.
#11136 of 13306 Re: 2009 Optima gets with the (ES)program [baggs32] by backy Nov 03, 2008 (4:00 pm)
Replying to: baggs32 (Nov 03, 2008 9:40 am) I was thinking of cars available now, vs. next year. But good to hear that Ford/Mercury is getting on board with ESC after not even offering it on the Fusion and Milan during its their 3 model years, or the pre-2009 Mazda6 I4 for that matter. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Nov 03, 2008 5:42 pm) backy (Nov 03, 2008 7:21 pm) waygrabow (Nov 03, 2008 8:03 pm) and 24 more... akirby (Nov 03, 2008 9:22 pm) backy (Nov 04, 2008 8:21 am) thegraduate (Nov 04, 2008 8:33 am) baggs32 (Nov 04, 2008 9:56 am) backy (Nov 04, 2008 2:04 pm)
#11137 of 13306 Re: 2009 Optima gets with the (ES)program [backy] by explorerx4 Nov 03, 2008 (5:42 pm)
Replying to: backy (Nov 03, 2008 4:00 pm) i know esc is goverment mandated at some point, but some cars need it more that others. Replies to this message: backy (Nov 03, 2008 7:21 pm) waygrabow (Nov 03, 2008 8:03 pm) backy (Nov 03, 2008 8:23 pm) explorerx4 (Nov 04, 2008 3:17 pm) and 22 more...

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