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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [backy] by explorerx4
Oct 31, 2008 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 31, 2008 8:09 am)

toyota had a judgement against them related to their hybrid synergy system for infringing on another non automotive company's patent. i think it was about $25 per vehicle. good new ideas are hard to come by.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Powertrains [baggs32] by maxamillion1
Oct 31, 2008 (10:06 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Oct 31, 2008 5:25 pm)

Yep no real changes for the 09 Altima or Camry...but look for facelifted 2010 Camry and Altima models to debut after the Fusion. The facelifted Camry should appear at Detroit and go on sale soon after...and like always Nissan will probably show off the facelifted Altima at Chicago and it should go on sale by March of next year. So while they offer nothing really new for 09, that particular model year will be short and we'll soon see the 2010 models.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Powertrains [maxamillion1] by gooddeal2
Nov 01, 2008 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Oct 31, 2008 10:06 pm)

So while they offer nothing really new for 09, that particular model year will be short and we'll soon see the 2010 models.
 
...not for '09 Camry, it's been out since Feb. of this year.
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AMEX buying service by bwia
Nov 01, 2008 (6:04 am)
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Perhaps this is the wrong thread to ask this question but
has any one used the American Express buying service that guarantees to save buyers an average of $750 on a new car purchase? I am not sure if that savings is off MSRP or the average transaction price.
  
The promotion came in the mail and it does not show how much the service cost but the average savings seems low. Perhaps most buyers could do better on their own, but then again, there are buyers who hate to haggle.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [akirby] by kdshapiro
Nov 01, 2008 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 31, 2008 6:57 am)

We're all saying the same thing. Ford could not use it's inventions without fear of litigation from Toyota, unless they engaged in a deal with Toyota, to eliminate the threat of litigation.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [kdshapiro] by akirby
Nov 01, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Nov 01, 2008 8:44 am)

No, some people were implying that Ford simply purchased it's hybrid technology from Toyota which is an urban myth.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [akirby] by elroy5
Nov 01, 2008 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Nov 01, 2008 9:36 am)

No, some people were implying that Ford simply purchased it's hybrid technology from Toyota which is an urban myth.
 
Isn't copying it, then paying for it, amount to the same thing?
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2009 Optima gets with the (ES)program by backy
Nov 01, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Good news, the 2009 Optima gets ABS, ESC, and traction control standard across the board, joining the Accord, Mazda6, Passat, and Sonata (and Legacy?) as "true" mid-sizers with ESC on every trim. That takes care of the one glaring deficiency of the Optima, and the new-for-2009 175 hp I4 (shared with the Sonata) doesn't hurt either. Still has a pretty wimpy V6 for the class though (albeit with a little more power for 2009).
 
http://www.kia.com/optima/optima-features.php
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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [elroy5] by akirby
Nov 01, 2008 (9:25 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 01, 2008 7:46 pm)

They didn't copy it - just get over it already.
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Re: 2009 Optima gets with the (ES)program [backy] by joe97
Nov 02, 2008 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: backy (Nov 01, 2008 7:47 pm)

Legacy gets it.

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