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#11115 of 13142 Changes for 2009 by thegraduate Oct 31, 2008 (10:40 am)
Replying to: backy (Oct 31, 2008 10:26 am) What is next on the mid-sized sedans docket?   Some things to chew on...   Honda's V6 Sedan gets re-rated at 271 hp, 254 lb-ft. up from 268 hp/248 lb-ft. Toyota has a new 4-cylinder engine to replace the current 2.4L unit in the Camry when the 2010 model debuts. The new 2.5L unit that produces 179 HP at 6,000 RPM, along with 172 lb.-ft. of torque at 4,000 RPM in the RAV4.   The Altima gets new plastic wheelcovers for low-end 2009 models.   Volkswagen discontinues the 3.6L Passat, leaving the V6 to go in the new Passat CC. The Passat will use the 2.0L Turbo model, and according to VW.com, starts at $28,300.   I'm sure many people knew of a lot of these changes, but I thought I'd list them as conversation points. Replies to this message: backy (Oct 31, 2008 11:07 am) madpistol (Oct 31, 2008 3:17 pm)
#11116 of 13142 Re: Changes for 2009 [thegraduate] by backy Oct 31, 2008 (11:07 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am) OMG, I have to run down to my Nissan dealer and see those new wheel covers!   Would have been nice if they had added something useful, like standard ESC, to the Altima while they were at it.   It looks like the center of attention for CY 2009 for mid-sizers is Ford/Mazda--the refresh to the 2009 Optima notwithstanding. Since the Prius is "officially" mid-sized (at least by the EPA), that is another interesting development for CY 2009--the next-gen 2010 Prius due out in early 2009.
#11120 of 13142 Re: Changes for 2009 [thegraduate] by madpistol Oct 31, 2008 (3:17 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am) The new wheelcovers on the Altima are FUGLY!!! They remind me of wheel covers found on the '00-'01 Camry, but they're even UGLIER!!!! At least the wheel covers on the '07-'08 Altima's had a little bit of taste. I'd wager that this is one of Nissan's selling tactics; make people hate the cheap plastic wheelcovers so they'll buy the more expensive packages w/ 16" alloys.   In other news, the Camry gets no new changes for '09, and thus, it still sucks.
#11121 of 13142 2010 Fusion Powertrains by baggs32 Oct 31, 2008 (5:25 pm)
I know, I know, we're beating it to death. But this 2010 Fusion is pretty big news IMO and you can read more than you want about the new powertrains here. Lots of good info if you care to know. Replies to this message: maxamillion1 (Oct 31, 2008 10:06 pm) gooddeal2 (Nov 01, 2008 4:22 am) maxamillion1 (Nov 02, 2008 6:35 pm)
#11122 of 13142 Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [backy] by explorerx4 Oct 31, 2008 (5:39 pm)
Replying to: backy (Oct 31, 2008 8:09 am) toyota had a judgement against them related to their hybrid synergy system for infringing on another non automotive company's patent. i think it was about $25 per vehicle. good new ideas are hard to come by.
#11123 of 13142 Re: 2010 Fusion Powertrains [baggs32] by maxamillion1 Oct 31, 2008 (10:06 pm)
Replying to: baggs32 (Oct 31, 2008 5:25 pm) Yep no real changes for the 09 Altima or Camry...but look for facelifted 2010 Camry and Altima models to debut after the Fusion. The facelifted Camry should appear at Detroit and go on sale soon after...and like always Nissan will probably show off the facelifted Altima at Chicago and it should go on sale by March of next year. So while they offer nothing really new for 09, that particular model year will be short and we'll soon see the 2010 models. Replies to this message: gooddeal2 (Nov 01, 2008 4:22 am) maxamillion1 (Nov 02, 2008 6:35 pm)
#11124 of 13142 Re: 2010 Fusion Powertrains [maxamillion1] by gooddeal2 Nov 01, 2008 (4:22 am)
Replying to: maxamillion1 (Oct 31, 2008 10:06 pm) So while they offer nothing really new for 09, that particular model year will be short and we'll soon see the 2010 models.   ...not for '09 Camry, it's been out since Feb. of this year. Replies to this message: maxamillion1 (Nov 02, 2008 6:35 pm)

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