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#11112 of 13285 Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [backy] by m6user Oct 31, 2008 (9:36 am)
Replying to: backy (Oct 31, 2008 8:09 am) If that's the case who paid who? Unless one knows the exact value of both patents it's possible Toyota was paying off Ford. Not likely but what does it really matter? Replies to this message: thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:13 am) backy (Oct 31, 2008 10:26 am) thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am) and 3 more...
#11113 of 13285 Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [m6user] by thegraduate Oct 31, 2008 (10:13 am)
Replying to: m6user (Oct 31, 2008 9:36 am) If that's the case who paid who? Unless one knows the exact value of both patents it's possible Toyota was paying off Ford. Not likely but what does it really matter?   In the process of comparing mainstream midsize sedans and their characteristics, it doesn't matter at all (to me). I believe we have a News and Views section, or something of that sort, where that would be a great topic to kick around. Replies to this message: backy (Oct 31, 2008 10:26 am) thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am) backy (Oct 31, 2008 11:07 am) and 1 more... madpistol (Oct 31, 2008 3:17 pm)
#11114 of 13285 Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [thegraduate] by backy Oct 31, 2008 (10:26 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:13 am) With three votes Nay (doesn't matter), one vote Yea (important), the matter of who paid whom for how much of what using what form of payment is rejected.   What is next on the mid-sized sedans docket? Replies to this message: thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am) backy (Oct 31, 2008 11:07 am) madpistol (Oct 31, 2008 3:17 pm)
#11115 of 13285 Changes for 2009 by thegraduate Oct 31, 2008 (10:40 am)
Replying to: backy (Oct 31, 2008 10:26 am) What is next on the mid-sized sedans docket?   Some things to chew on...   Honda's V6 Sedan gets re-rated at 271 hp, 254 lb-ft. up from 268 hp/248 lb-ft. Toyota has a new 4-cylinder engine to replace the current 2.4L unit in the Camry when the 2010 model debuts. The new 2.5L unit that produces 179 HP at 6,000 RPM, along with 172 lb.-ft. of torque at 4,000 RPM in the RAV4.   The Altima gets new plastic wheelcovers for low-end 2009 models.   Volkswagen discontinues the 3.6L Passat, leaving the V6 to go in the new Passat CC. The Passat will use the 2.0L Turbo model, and according to VW.com, starts at $28,300.   I'm sure many people knew of a lot of these changes, but I thought I'd list them as conversation points. Replies to this message: backy (Oct 31, 2008 11:07 am) madpistol (Oct 31, 2008 3:17 pm)
#11116 of 13285 Re: Changes for 2009 [thegraduate] by backy Oct 31, 2008 (11:07 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am) OMG, I have to run down to my Nissan dealer and see those new wheel covers!   Would have been nice if they had added something useful, like standard ESC, to the Altima while they were at it.   It looks like the center of attention for CY 2009 for mid-sizers is Ford/Mazda--the refresh to the 2009 Optima notwithstanding. Since the Prius is "officially" mid-sized (at least by the EPA), that is another interesting development for CY 2009--the next-gen 2010 Prius due out in early 2009.
#11120 of 13285 Re: Changes for 2009 [thegraduate] by madpistol Oct 31, 2008 (3:17 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am) The new wheelcovers on the Altima are FUGLY!!! They remind me of wheel covers found on the '00-'01 Camry, but they're even UGLIER!!!! At least the wheel covers on the '07-'08 Altima's had a little bit of taste. I'd wager that this is one of Nissan's selling tactics; make people hate the cheap plastic wheelcovers so they'll buy the more expensive packages w/ 16" alloys.   In other news, the Camry gets no new changes for '09, and thus, it still sucks.
#11121 of 13285 2010 Fusion Powertrains by baggs32 Oct 31, 2008 (5:25 pm)
I know, I know, we're beating it to death. But this 2010 Fusion is pretty big news IMO and you can read more than you want about the new powertrains here. Lots of good info if you care to know. Replies to this message: maxamillion1 (Oct 31, 2008 10:06 pm) gooddeal2 (Nov 01, 2008 4:22 am) maxamillion1 (Nov 02, 2008 6:35 pm)

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