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13265 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 7:07 PM
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Replying to: backy (Oct 30, 2008 9:00 am) That's true. But "hybridizing" a vehicle fundamentally alters many of its driving characteristics: Based on these characteristics, I would be reluctant to assume that the Fusion Hybrid will automatically share the positive characteristics I associate with the conventionally-powered Fusion.
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Replying to: backy (Oct 30, 2008 10:11 am) So was I. I just happened to click reply on your post instead of going back. |
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Oct 30, 2008 4:08 am) The A6 is AWD, if thats what your talking about. Its almost IMPOSSIBLE to find an A6 in FWD, because with the FWD option you can't have the premimum package. The FWD Fusion is a rarity to find now considering Ford actually made an AWD option. ONLY 135K MILES, less than half the mileage that a quality-built diesel should last. Hmm, your telling me a Ford Excursion would last 135k miles? Not a chance in the world. VW and "reliable" don't belong in the same sentence. And I'm FAR from the only person that thinks this, since pretty much EVERY quality/reliability survey has rated VW at or near the bottom over the past 15 years, with good reason. And for the record, Audi wasn't doing very well for a long time either, until the past couple of years... Show me where Ford was about two-three years ago, 20 bucks says they are below VW. Umm, it had better, since the A6 is $25K OR MORE than any other car listed on the right. And yes, the VW Caravan/Town & Country is pretty nice, FOR A CHRYSLER!! You just ruinned your argument about the Fusion and Mazda 6. Like the Fusion and Mazda 6, The Routan and Town and Country share the same chassis. "German engineering"? You're obviously still young into your German relationship. As for the Passat, they do look great, and use good-quality materials for the interior, but they're too expensive for this class. Plus, have you ever paid for replacement parts or service for a VW? Umm, not cheap, at all. Yes, I have. I bought my daughter a 2007 Jetta Wulfsberg Edition, and she wrecked it. A new fender was only $300.00. My point is Ford is junk, they are in such desperate ways they had to make a Focus "Coupe" to try and boost their sales. IMO, it looks like a Porta-Potty on Wheels.
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Replying to: dm1212 (Oct 30, 2008 12:06 pm) |
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Replying to: dm1212 (Oct 30, 2008 12:06 pm) The Caravan and Routan share a whole hell of a lot more then the Fusion and Mazda6. With the arrival of the 2010 Fusion and 2009 Mazda6, they are more like 3rd cousins twice removed.... Here is where the Routan / Caravan are similar and the Fusion and Mazda6 are not. Routan / Caravan are built on the same production line at Windsor Assembly in Windsor, Ontario. Engines available are two V6 engines from Chrysler's powertrain stable: the 3.8 L V6 producing 197 hp and 230 lb·ft, and the 4.0 L V6 producing 251 hp and 259 lb·ft. Both engines are teamed to Chrysler's 62TE six-speed automatic transaxle with manual shift capability. The body design is similar overall to the Chrysler vans, though Volkswagen designers gave the Routan a unique front- and rear-end appearance to differentiate the van from its Chrysler siblings and bring it in to the Volkswagen family. The interior is all VW as well. Mazda6 is built at AAI in Flat Rock, MI and the Fusion is built in Mexico. They have never shared any body panels, transmissions, suspension, or ECU's. The only sharing that went on was the basic platform (which really does not mean much) and engine design. The Ford 2.3 and new 2.5 are Mazda designs, and the old 3.0L was a Ford, and the new 3.7L uses the Ford block design only. All internals, VV-T, heads, cams, ECU are all Mazda designed and built in Japan. |
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Let's try to stick to the vehicles that belong in this topic. And let's review akirby's recent excellent advice, also.
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Replying to: pat (Oct 30, 2008 12:49 pm) 
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Replying to: stephen987 (Oct 30, 2008 10:42 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 30, 2008 6:45 am) I'd recommend a Fusion though, for the money it's a great sedan. |
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Replying to: backy (Oct 30, 2008 2:57 pm)
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