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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [akirby] by kdshapiro
Oct 30, 2008 (6:40 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 30, 2008 5:54 am)

It would be impressive as long as it doesn't drive like a Prius.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [jeffyscott] by aviboy97
Oct 30, 2008 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 29, 2008 7:16 pm)

I have to say, I'm very impressed with Ford lately. Not only are they climbing up the reliability charts, but their recent products from the last 2 years have been built better too. The Ford Flex and Taurus have a remarkable interior. Really top notch. I don't necessarily like the design, of any Ford for that matter, but, it seems as if they are learning how to build a better car.
 
The more and more I look at the new Fusion, the more and more I'm starting NOT to like it. From the press release, it seems as if they are actually proactive in advancing their technology, something they did not do for years. From what I see, I'm going out on a limb here, I will say that it's only a matter of time before Ford turns it's self around.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [aviboy97] by akirby
Oct 30, 2008 (6:58 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 30, 2008 6:45 am)

Exactly. When was the last time Ford was a leader in fuel economy? The only thing holding them back right now is limited resources made worse by the poor economy - and terrible past management decisions.
 
The spy shots of the new Fusion look a lot better than that press photo, so hold that judgement for 3 weeks until we get better photos. I think it's a big improvement over the current design.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [akirby] by aviboy97
Oct 30, 2008 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 30, 2008 6:58 am)

I'm really curious about the interior too. I was not a big fan of the Fusion interior to begin with.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [aviboy97] by akirby
Oct 30, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 30, 2008 7:04 am)

The gauge cluster is new and has a 3 ring design to it. The center stack is no longer flat and it has the new Ford radio and hvac controls similar to the Flex with a straight shifter instead of the "T" handle. Definitely better but not totally new. Then again this is a 3 year MCE, not an entirely new vehicle. The change in the MKZ dash, OTOH, is basically a clean sheet redesign matching the MKS design which is a HUGE improvement.
 
The current Fusion interior isn't bad with the piano black trim. The other trims are rather pedestrian, but functional. The new center stack and gauges should help a lot.
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Re: Fusion hybrid Smartgauge demo [akirby] by baggs32
Oct 30, 2008 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 30, 2008 6:16 am)

So it appears, all you naysayers pay attention now, that the leaves can be changed to a more traditional graph if you don't like them. I personally thought the leaves were cheesy and now I'm officially on-board with this new gauge cluster. I'd like to see it in non-hybrids too though. Minus the hybrid battery stuff. IIRC Ford did say they were going to put efficiency meters in their ICE vehicles soon too. Anyone know if this is what they were talking about? Or at least some version of it?
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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [kdshapiro] by backy
Oct 30, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Oct 30, 2008 6:40 am)

If you've driven the Prius, and the Fusion (or Milan), you know they drive nothing like the Prius. They also probably won't top the Prius' FE (especially that of the new-for-2010 Prius), but they have big advantages ride/handling wise.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [backy] by akirby
Oct 30, 2008 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 30, 2008 9:00 am)

Toyota makes 2 hybrid sedans - Prius and Camry. The Fusion hybrid competes with the Camry, not the Prius.
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Re: Fusion Hybrid Fuel Economy [akirby] by backy
Oct 30, 2008 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 30, 2008 9:12 am)

I am well aware of that, thanks (although the Prius is a hatchback, not a sedan). I was replying to someone else's post that compared the Fusion to the Prius.
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2010 Milan Fully revealed by aviboy97
Oct 30, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Here she is boys....
 
http://www.leftlanenews.com/mercury-milan-hybrid.html
 
Why is Ford so dumb to ride around with no camo and still want to wait till mid November to show us what it looks like....

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