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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [stephen987] by kdshapiro
Oct 29, 2008 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Oct 29, 2008 2:07 pm)

Hosts?
 
Don't like the reviews and you want the host to step in? :confuse
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Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [aviboy97] by dm1212
Oct 29, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 2:14 pm)

Thats odd.
I was thinking about buyin an 09 A4 V6, can't drive a 4 with a turbo. 42,000 fully loaded. nav. prem. etc. I test drove it around two weeks back, stiff steering, sporty, etc. but while on the test drive the car was really lacking in leg-room. Going to maybe trade my car in when the 09 A6 comes out. 51k on my car, no problems besides the sun-roof and rear cup-holders. Handling is superb, especially in snow, never going to own anything besides an Audi ever again. Thats why on affordable mid-size sedans I would go with the Passat. And you ask why I hate ford so much, before having my A6 I had a 2003 Expedition Edie Bauer, and the car was a piece of junk, stalling on the high way, not my thing.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [jeffyscott] by dm1212
Oct 29, 2008 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 29, 2008 2:21 pm)

I agree with you. The milan is an ugly car. The fusion doesn't look half bad though, I would want to see a 300hp V8 instead of the wimpy 263 hp 3.5... I wouldn't buy a car because it gets 3 more miles to the gallon. Gas prices are falling and I could careless if I safe 100 bucks a year in gas. I would like to see more hybrid SUV's coming.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [jeffyscott] by aviboy97
Oct 29, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 29, 2008 2:21 pm)

33 mpg highway would be 5 mpg above the rating for the 2.3 and 3 mpg better than the new Mazda6 with the same 2.5 engine
 
I'm wondering if they really are the exact same engine. I did read that Ford uses a VVT system called "intake variable cam timing". I wonder if this is any different from Mazda's Variable Valve Timing. Maybe just in name? I have no idea. However, some of the press release stated exactly what Mazda did in their press release, by talking about newer intake and exhaust manifolds.
 
If they are indeed identical, then the Fusion must have a really really low revving 6th gear. 2,000-2,200 rpm's at 70mph?
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [aviboy97] by akirby
Oct 29, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 3:43 pm)

Further proof that mazda and ford only share engineering and basic components and do not clone each other's vehicles or engines.
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This forum... by thegraduate
Oct 29, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Where am I going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?
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Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [dm1212] by waygrabow
Oct 29, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 1:23 pm)

If you want to be highly opinionated and badmouth other cars, at least try to be factually accurate. People will accept your comments better. I am currently driving an Audi; it has been great for the last five years we've had it, but I know that other great cars are out there too. I drove a MazdaSpeed6 for two years and enjoyed it just as much (or more? They are two different experiences.) as our Audi.
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Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [waygrabow] by thegraduate
Oct 29, 2008 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: waygrabow (Oct 29, 2008 6:32 pm)

The poster has already expressed distaste for anything less than a 300hp V8, something no vehicle in this forum offers. No point in even having a discussion here.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [akirby] by backy
Oct 29, 2008 (7:01 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 29, 2008 12:12 pm)

Well, I thought the Milan was pretty sorry looking (much too big a grille mostly) until you posted the photo of the new Fusion. OMG. All you see is THREE HUGE CHROME BARS that overwhelm the rest of the car--which is probably just fine styling-wise, except it's hard to tell from that photo and it's also hard to tell because of those three huge chrome bars that say proudly, "Look at me, I'm driving a Ford!!!"
 
I preferred the old Milan's styling to the old Fusion, and I still prefer the new Milan over the new Fusion except now I don't really like either one of them too much. Which is too bad because I really like the idea of a mid-sized sedan that gets 40 mpg highway.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [aviboy97] by jeffyscott
Oct 29, 2008 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 3:43 pm)

If they are indeed identical, then the Fusion must have a really really low revving 6th gear. 2,000-2,200 rpm's at 70mph?
 
I don't know if they are identical or not either, but in the case of the old 2.3, the mpg rating was essentially the same in the Mazda6 and Ford Fusion.
 
The Ford press release did ascribe "up to a 10 percent fuel economy improvement" to the new 6 speed trans.

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