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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#11063 of 18428 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [dm1212]
Oct 29, 2008 (2:36 pm)
They are not built in the same plant. The Fusion is built in Mexico! The Mazda6 is built at Auto Alliance International in Flat Rock, MI which was originally built by Mazda and called Mazda Motor USA Manufacturing. Ford then bought into it so it could build some of their cars. They do not share the same suspension either. The 4 cyl is a Mazda engine and the V6 WAS, is no longer, a Ford engine. Remember who developed the platform (GG/GY), Mazda!
So, I say again, The Fusion was loosely based on the 1st gen Mazda6.
I have a funny feeling you are about to get ripped by many here in regards to calling the Mazda6 "cheap and loose". greyghost, where are ya? All evidence points to the contrary.
Again, if you didn't like it, just say so!
#11064 of 18428 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [dm1212]
Oct 29, 2008 (2:37 pm)
Why wouldn't you buy a Passat with 4 years/50,000 mile warranty, and German engineering. I would never own a non-german made car.
You rip Ford and Mazda and then put VW on a high horse? Can I have what you are smoking?
To VW's credit, they do build a car that's easy on the eyes, and the newer models have a decent interior. Same cannot be said of ones just a few years ago.
#11065 of 18428 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [aviboy97]
Oct 29, 2008 (2:52 pm)
All VW's currently made are good looking, even their new minivan. The passat is a great looking, sporty, and semi-reliable sedan. The interior on a loaded Passat is nicer then the base 528i. I drive a 2005 Audi A6, and no auto-maker comes close to the quality of the interior of an Audi.
#11066 of 18428 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [dm1212]
Oct 29, 2008 (3:07 pm)
I sense a troll.
dm1212, you might want to go back and check your facts again. You're welcome to your opinion regarding how these cars drive, but there are people on this list who are fairly well-placed in the auto industry and who thus know what the hell they're talking about when they discuss the similarities and differences, common platforms, components and so on.
#11067 of 18428 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [dm1212]
Oct 29, 2008 (3:14 pm)
Yes, the Routan is a very pretty Dodge Caravan.
I drive a 2005 Audi A6, and no auto-maker comes close to the quality of the interior of an Audi.
I do really like Audi's design, particularly the new A4, however, I will respectfully disagree about the interior quality statement. I have spent a lot of time in my co-workers 2006 A6 4.2, and I was very unimpressed. Build quality is decent, but, design, materials and lay out were unimpressive for a $50,000 car.
#11068 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [akirby]
Oct 29, 2008 (3:21 pm)
The fusion looks better and the Milan worse to me. I'd like to see a non-chrome grill option, though.
33 mpg highway would be 5 mpg above the rating for the 2.3 and 3 mpg better than the new Mazda6 with the same 2.5 engine. That is a fantastic improvement.
Though, with the plunging gas prices, I wonder how long it will be before they decide... "oops we were actual right before when all we cared about was trucks and SUVs" .
#11069 of 18428 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [stephen987]
Oct 29, 2008 (3:35 pm)
Don't like the reviews and you want the host to step in? :confuse
#11070 of 18428 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [aviboy97]
Oct 29, 2008 (3:36 pm)
I was thinking about buyin an 09 A4 V6, can't drive a 4 with a turbo. 42,000 fully loaded. nav. prem. etc. I test drove it around two weeks back, stiff steering, sporty, etc. but while on the test drive the car was really lacking in leg-room. Going to maybe trade my car in when the 09 A6 comes out. 51k on my car, no problems besides the sun-roof and rear cup-holders. Handling is superb, especially in snow, never going to own anything besides an Audi ever again. Thats why on affordable mid-size sedans I would go with the Passat. And you ask why I hate ford so much, before having my A6 I had a 2003 Expedition Edie Bauer, and the car was a piece of junk, stalling on the high way, not my thing.
#11071 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [jeffyscott]
Oct 29, 2008 (3:42 pm)
I agree with you. The milan is an ugly car. The fusion doesn't look half bad though, I would want to see a 300hp V8 instead of the wimpy 263 hp 3.5... I wouldn't buy a car because it gets 3 more miles to the gallon. Gas prices are falling and I could careless if I safe 100 bucks a year in gas. I would like to see more hybrid SUV's coming.
#11072 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [jeffyscott]
Oct 29, 2008 (4:43 pm)
33 mpg highway would be 5 mpg above the rating for the 2.3 and 3 mpg better than the new Mazda6 with the same 2.5 engine
I'm wondering if they really are the exact same engine. I did read that Ford uses a VVT system called "intake variable cam timing". I wonder if this is any different from Mazda's Variable Valve Timing. Maybe just in name? I have no idea. However, some of the press release stated exactly what Mazda did in their press release, by talking about newer intake and exhaust manifolds.
If they are indeed identical, then the Fusion must have a really really low revving 6th gear. 2,000-2,200 rpm's at 70mph?