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13141 messages, Last post on Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM

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#11045 of 13141 Re: 2010 Milan Spied [thegraduate] by dm1212 Oct 29, 2008 (11:49 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 29, 2008 10:09 am) That is typical Ford engineering. CHEAP. The new Milan is worse then the old one, I could see maybe an 85 year old woman driving one. That grill is hidious!
#11046 of 13141 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [dm1212] by akirby Oct 29, 2008 (12:00 pm)
Replying to: dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 11:47 am) Fusion steering and handling is one of it's strong points and is better than average for this type of vehicle. That was one of the few benefits of the Jackie Stewart Formula 1 team.
#11047 of 13141 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [dm1212] by aviboy97 Oct 29, 2008 (12:10 pm)
Replying to: dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 11:47 am) Ummm, you need to be corrected. The Mazda6 is not by any means a Fusion. The Fusion was loosely based on the 1st gen Mazda6 and though no longer in production the 1st gen Mazda6 is still considered the best handling, braking and steering vehicle in this class. The 2nd gen is a whole other story. The difference is night and day between the two of them. Replies to this message: dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 12:25 pm) aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:40 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 1:23 pm) and 10 more... akirby (Oct 29, 2008 1:20 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 1:34 pm) and 6 more... stephen987 (Oct 29, 2008 2:07 pm) kdshapiro (Oct 29, 2008 2:35 pm)
#11048 of 13141 2010 Fusion Pic and Details by akirby Oct 29, 2008 (12:12 pm)
Just released at media.ford.com: (Fusion Sport Model shown - not the best camera angle in the world but I guess they want to save the good stuff for the L.A. Auto Show official debut) For 2009, the 2010 model year Fusion and Milan will offer Ford’s all-new Duratec 2.5-liter I-4, producing 175 horsepower; an enhanced 3.0-liter V-6 with 19 more horsepower than its predecessor; and a 3.5-liter V-6 that pumps out 263 horsepower on the Fusion Sport model. Fusion models equipped with the 2.5-liter I-4 engine are expected to deliver at least 3 mpg better on the highway than the Honda Accord and 2 mpg better than the Toyota Camry. That's 240 hp for the 3.0L V6 with better fuel economy than the previous 221 hp version. And should put the fuel economy at 33 mpg for the automatic 2.5L vs. 30 for the Accord and 31 for the Camry. The only thing I see missing is HIDs - does the Camcordnatima offer HIDs? Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:15 pm) akirby (Oct 29, 2008 12:22 pm) aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:26 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 12:28 pm) aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:41 pm) and 2 more... jeffyscott (Oct 29, 2008 2:21 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 2:42 pm) aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 3:43 pm) akirby (Oct 29, 2008 5:15 pm) jeffyscott (Oct 29, 2008 7:16 pm) and 5 more... backy (Oct 29, 2008 7:01 pm)
#11049 of 13141 Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [akirby] by aviboy97 Oct 29, 2008 (12:15 pm)
Replying to: akirby (Oct 29, 2008 12:12 pm) Anyone else see a Saab in the front?? Not bad...not bad at all. Replies to this message: akirby (Oct 29, 2008 12:22 pm) aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:26 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 12:28 pm) aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:41 pm) akirby (Oct 29, 2008 1:20 pm) and 1 more...
#11050 of 13141 Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [aviboy97] by akirby Oct 29, 2008 (12:22 pm)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:15 pm) Maybe just a tad - but i think it's more the angle of the shot. The camouflaged spy shots didn't look that way. Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:26 pm)
#11051 of 13141 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [aviboy97] by dm1212 Oct 29, 2008 (12:25 pm)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:10 pm) The 2008 Mazda 6 and the 2008 Fusion were almost the same car, and the drive on the Fusion is simply american. The next Fusion and Mazda 6 are using the same chasis again. 3 Years 36,000 mile warranty, simply not a good idea to buy either one of them. Today was the first time I saw the Milan, and it looks like the bumper weighs 4,000 pounds and its pulling down the grill. Try Audi or BMW engineering. Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:40 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 1:23 pm) akirby (Oct 29, 2008 1:26 pm) and 1 more... aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 1:36 pm) and 5 more... waygrabow (Oct 29, 2008 6:32 pm) and 1 more... akirby (Oct 29, 2008 1:20 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 1:34 pm) aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 1:37 pm) and 3 more... joe97 (Oct 29, 2008 8:13 pm) and 1 more... stephen987 (Oct 29, 2008 2:07 pm) kdshapiro (Oct 29, 2008 2:35 pm)
#11052 of 13141 Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [akirby] by aviboy97 Oct 29, 2008 (12:26 pm)
Replying to: akirby (Oct 29, 2008 12:22 pm) I can see that offering two different V6 engines is going to make it tough on dealers to place orders.
#11053 of 13141 Re: 2010 Fusion Pic and Details [aviboy97] by dm1212 Oct 29, 2008 (12:28 pm)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:15 pm) The Fusion looks decent, but the Milan looks horrible. Fusion could use real chrome instead of cheap plastic three barred grill, and it might get my approval. Does anyone have a rear view of the Fusion? Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 12:41 pm) akirby (Oct 29, 2008 1:20 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 1:27 pm)
#11054 of 13141 Re: 2009 Mazda 6i vs. 2009 Nissan Altima 2.5 [dm1212] by aviboy97 Oct 29, 2008 (12:40 pm)
Replying to: dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 12:25 pm) The drive of the 1st gen Mazda6 was anything but American, and they were not almost the same car. Similar platform's do not equal same car. That is a common misconception. The Fusion is highly recommended by leading consumer publications as was the 1st gen Mazda6. According to many, including the site you are posting on (Edmunds.com) the 09 Mazda6 is a class leader, ahead of Altima, Camry and Accord. Not a good idea to buy either? Hardly. The reasons you post fail to prove that. Sorry. If you just don't like them, that's fine. Then that's what you should say. Don't make non factual based comments or people like myself will jump on you for it. Replies to this message: dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 1:23 pm) akirby (Oct 29, 2008 1:26 pm) dm1212 (Oct 29, 2008 1:28 pm) aviboy97 (Oct 29, 2008 1:36 pm) mz6greyghost (Oct 30, 2008 4:08 am) and 4 more... waygrabow (Oct 29, 2008 6:32 pm) thegraduate (Oct 29, 2008 6:39 pm)

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