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Replying to: backy (Oct 26, 2008 11:02 am) If you go back and read what I wrote, you would see where I said that improving on existing technology is evolutionary, and the implementing introduction of new technology that has not been available is revolutionary. Thus the Volt is evolutionary--other cars (e.g. Prius) use a gas engine to charge the batteries so it can be driven only under electric power The Volt and Prius are totally different. The gasoline engine on the Volt is only used to charge the battery. The Volt is powered by an electric motor only. The gas engine has nothing to do with propulsion. The Prius only uses an electric motor for up to 25mph, and uses the gasoline engine for everything else, just like every other car on the road. They (especially the Prius) were the first to be successful in the marketplace, though. Yes, that makes them revolutionary. Toyota and Honda were the first companies to something no auto manufacturer has done before. It does not matter that the technology existed. We are not debating who invented what. We are talking about who was the first to offer it to the public on a grand scale. And since hydrogen fuel cells have been around for about 50 years, their use in a car is evolutionary also Again, for a company to introduce revolutionary technology does not mean that they had to invent it. Mazda is, and has always been considered a "revolutionary" company for vehicles like the RX's and MX-5 Miata. Did Mazda invent the rotary? No, Dr. Felix Wankel did. Mazda is the only company to continue to offer it to the public. Did Mazda invent the roadster? No, they just offer the most popular, best selling roadster in automotive history. Those are two of their signature vehicles, which no other manufacturer really offers. What makes companys revolutionary is their ability to offer products to the general public that has not been available to them before.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 26, 2008 11:59 am) Good, we are agreed then. A 100 mpg, best-in-class handling mid-sized sedan would be revolutionary because no such product has been made available to the public before.
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Replying to: backy (Oct 26, 2008 12:06 pm) 
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Replying to: backy (Oct 26, 2008 11:02 am) Your correct. Porsche had an gas/electric model circa 1910.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Oct 27, 2008 5:39 am)
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| Has anyone taken these two for test drives and compared yet? I already looked at the Camry SE and didn't like the steering. My concerns are that other posters say that the Mazda revs very high at freeway speeds while the Nissan shoots a lot of vibration through the steering wheel while on rough roads, especially with potholes. Is it really possible to get a midsized sedan with very good handling or do I have to move up to a BMW/Acura type vehicle for this? | |
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Replying to: oceana143 (Oct 27, 2008 5:26 pm) I think that is only with the manual transmission.
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 28, 2008 5:00 am) |
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Replying to: oceana143 (Oct 27, 2008 5:26 pm)
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Replying to: newowner10 (Oct 27, 2008 9:58 am) Of course, even technology used 10 years ago is primitive by today's standard. However, the Prius isn't revolutionary it's just mass marketed. How can you have a revolutionary technology that has been around for 100 years? It's like saying the internal combustion engine is revolutionary in 2008. |
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