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13225 messages, Last post on Nov 26, 2009 at 4:51 AM
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 23, 2008 2:23 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 23, 2008 2:23 pm) |
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 23, 2008 2:23 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 23, 2008 2:23 pm) They tried that with the first one and it didn't sell as well as planned. We'll see how the more Camry/Accord-like version 2.0 goes. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 24, 2008 8:51 am) How does that sound? |
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Replying to: stephen987 (Oct 23, 2008 2:34 pm) certainly true - now 'ancient' history and hardly the point. Ford controls Mazda and has for a number of years now. Ford is now losing billions, selling 'junk' bonds, and building cars in Mexico while Mazda is rumored to actually be making a bit of money - so who do you think really is the ball and chain in this equation today? Toyo Koygo had historically been an independent, free thinking, and innovative company - not so much anymore.  Nissan was in a similar position as Mazda at about the same time, got several billion francs injected from Renault, and ended up with one of the most competitive and profitable product lines in the entire industry. Carlo Ghosn notwithstanding, do you really believe that Ford's interest in Mazda has helped them at all in the last 10 years or so? Or hurt?
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Replying to: captain2 (Oct 24, 2008 9:19 am) |
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Replying to: backy (Oct 24, 2008 9:13 am) While we are at it, who is going to be the first to make 'em fly??? How's that for revolution....  Everything else you mentioned is evolution BTW...
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 24, 2008 9:51 am) 5-for-5 on the NHTSA tests is impressive (especially on rollover, where 5 stars is very rare), but I'll wait for the IIHS tests to bestow "safest on the road" to the Mazda6.
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Replying to: backy (Oct 24, 2008 1:32 pm) Yeah, I worded it a little funny. After I read what I wrote, it was too late to edit it. Know of any mid-sized sedans that get close to 100 mpg with world-class handling? Well, you did mention hybrids and other technologies that already exist. So, an improvement on those systems is evolutionary. World class handling? I guess that is a subjective question. Unless there is a totally new type of suspension to come out, anything that we may see in the future is evolutionary, meaning evolving from current technology. The closest thing to "revolutionary" that is about to hit the market is the Chevy Volt. Currently, there is no mass produced vehicle like that on the road that uses a gasoline engine for the only purpose of charging the battery, and the battery is used as the main source of power to the engine. I would say the Honda FXC is another, however, there are numerous rumors that the FXC will not go into mass production. The 1st gen Prius and 1st gen Insight were revolutionary almost 10 years ago.
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