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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#10984 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Specs [thegraduate] by aviboy97
Oct 22, 2008 (6:44 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 21, 2008 7:44 pm)
3.0L Ford design + built, and Mazda contributed VV-T. Identical in both 03-08 Mazda6 and Fusion 2.3L Mazda design, both Ford and Mazda built. Again, identical in 03-08 Mazda6 and Fusion
Basic platforms are the same too. Every other component is different. They do not share transmissions either.
2009 Mazda6:
2.5L Mazda fully developed and built.
3.7L block is Ford design, totally built by Mazda with different internals and different computer tune then Ford built 3.7L. (captain2, I'm waiting for you to chime in!)
There is actually a "Mazda" logo stamped onto the engine, whereas the 03-08 Mazda6 had the "Ford" logo stamped on the V6 engine.
6-speed manual + 5-speed auto transmission built by JATCO, a company partly owned by Mazda and Nissan. 6-speed automatic is built by Aisin.
IIRC, Ford builds their own transmissions.
- jeffyscott (Oct 22, 2008 7:00 am)
- akirby (Oct 22, 2008 7:38 am)
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#10985 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Specs [aviboy97] by jeffyscott
Oct 22, 2008 (7:00 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 22, 2008 6:44 am)
They do not share transmissions either They may be different, but both the Mazda6 and Fusion do have a 5 speed auto with the 2.3.
The Focus, that someone mentioned as having a 4 speed, does not have the 2.3 engine.
- aviboy97 (Oct 22, 2008 7:06 am)
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#10986 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Specs [jeffyscott] by aviboy97
Oct 22, 2008 (7:06 am)
Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 22, 2008 7:00 am)
Very true. Almost every other mid sized had a 5-speed auto with their 4 cyl during that time period too....
#10987 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Specs [aviboy97] by akirby
Oct 22, 2008 (7:38 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 22, 2008 6:44 am)
Ford used Aisin transmissions in the CD3s for both the I4 and V6 including the 3.5L V6 in the MKZ. The new GM joint venture 6 speed auto was used in the Edge, MKX, MKS and Flex. Not sure if the 2010 fusion V6 gets the Aisin or JV 6 speed auto.
#10988 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Specs [aviboy97] by jeffyscott
Oct 22, 2008 (8:46 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Oct 22, 2008 7:06 am)
Almost every other mid sized had a 5-speed auto with their 4 cyl during that time period too.... This is not true. I know because that was one of my criteria in 2007. IIRC the following still had 4 speed autos with their I4: all GM divisions, Subaru, Mitsubishi, Hyudai, Kia, Chrysler and Dodge.
As I recall, the only choices that met this criterion were Ford (and Mercury), Mazda, Honda, and Toyota...plus I'd include Nissan with their CVT.
- aviboy97 (Oct 22, 2008 8:49 am)
- thegraduate (Oct 22, 2008 9:31 am)
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#10989 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Specs [jeffyscott] by aviboy97
Oct 22, 2008 (8:49 am)
Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 22, 2008 8:46 am)
man, are we nit picky today... 
#10990 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Specs [jeffyscott] by thegraduate
Oct 22, 2008 (9:31 am)
Replying to: jeffyscott (Oct 22, 2008 8:46 am)
To be fair, the Kia Optima, in its current form, has always offered a 5-speed automatic. Something Hyundai didn't do with its Sonata 4-cylinder.
- akirby (Oct 22, 2008 10:09 am)
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#10991 of 18428 Re: 2010 Fusion Specs [thegraduate] by akirby
Oct 22, 2008 (10:09 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 22, 2008 9:31 am)
Come January I think Ford may be the first one to offer 6 speed trannys exclusively - no 4 or 5 speeds in the Fulan.
#10992 of 18428 2009 Toyota Camry SE 4-cylinder vs.2009 Mazda6i by oceana143
Oct 23, 2008 (8:03 am)
Has anyone test driven both of these cars? Curious as to which one is a better handling vehicle. Thank you.- akirby (Oct 23, 2008 9:35 am)
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#10993 of 18428 Re: 2009 Toyota Camry SE 4-cylinder vs.2009 Mazda6i [oceana143] by akirby
Oct 23, 2008 (9:35 am)
Replying to: oceana143 (Oct 23, 2008 8:03 am)
I don't know for sure but it has to be the Mazda6.
- aviboy97 (Oct 23, 2008 10:14 am)
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