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Re: Toyota 2.5L [backy]
by thegraduate
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Sep 17, 2008 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 17, 2008 9:40 am)
I was talking about their claim for the upcoming Fusion; sorry I didn't make that more clear. I edited to put that in.
In my head I wrote it, put in reality I didn't!
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Re: Toyota 2.5L [thegraduate]
by akirby
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Sep 17, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 17, 2008 9:43 am)
It's possible, but at least the 2010 Fusion will have a 8 month head start.
What was the mileage increase in the RAV4?
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Re: Where's Honda? [thegraduate]
by oldcem
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Sep 17, 2008 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 17, 2008 7:45 am)
Not so sure that the Camry V6 is the class leader in acceleration now. The road tests I've read in a couple of the mags indicate the GM midsizers (Aura and Malibu) with the 3.6 are quicker. However, the Camry supposedly delivers better fuel economy than the GM twins. I went with the 3.5 Liter Aura 4 speed that is a good bit slower than the class leaders, but, delivers great fuel economy.
Regards:
OldCEM
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Re: Where's Honda? [oldcem]
by thegraduate
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Sep 17, 2008 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: oldcem (Sep 17, 2008 7:54 pm)
According to Motor Trend, the Camry is fastest among the Altima, Accord, and Malibu V6 Sedans.
Car and Driver ran the Camry SE-V6 with numbers below. Which mags had the GM twins being faster?
2007 Toyota Camry V-6
Second Place: The Quickest Cars of 2007: $20,000 to $25,000
Base price: $24,160
0-to-60-mph time: 5.8 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.3 sec 99 mph
The Saturn Aura XR was ninth on this list.
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Re: Where's Honda? [thegraduate]
by maxamillion1
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Sep 18, 2008 (12:20 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 17, 2008 8:19 pm)
I agree here....I'd say the 3.6 V6 found in the GM Midsize Triplets is faster than say the Accord's or Altima's 3.5L V6s, but I don't think it can match the Mazda6 V6 or Camry V6 for acceleration. I'm ready for an all out test of the midsize four cylinder models though. I'm curious as to how these cars would be ranked based on the traditional requirements for a family sedan...room, ride, handling, fuel economy and things of that nature. I wonder where the 6 would rank amongst class leaders like the Malibu and Sonata as far as fuel economy on a real-world level.
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Re: Where's Honda? [maxamillion1]
by thegraduate
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Sep 18, 2008 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Sep 18, 2008 12:20 am)
4-cyl Midsize Comparison
Check that out, it may be what you're looking for; it's a Car and Driver Comparo.
For what it is worth, the Motor Trend comparison I referenced in my previous post had the Malibu and the Accord accelerating at the same rate to 60 MPH. Other tests I've seen put the Malibu slightly faster (by about 2 tenths of a second).
The Camry is simply the fastest family car in the $25,000 category.
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Re: Where's Honda? [maxamillion1]
by joe97
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Sep 18, 2008 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Sep 18, 2008 12:20 am)
GM has a fantastic 6 cyl. on their hand, the only improvement I can see is on fuel economy.
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Re: Where's Honda? [thegraduate]
by lucky_777
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Sep 18, 2008 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 18, 2008 5:34 am)
I'm sure Camry gets lower review ratings recently because they sell Camry LE with cheap and crappy Bridgestone Turanza EL400 tires while Honda sells Accords with Michelin. Few $$ that Toyota saves on tires result in bad reviews and lost sales. Otherwise 4 cyl Camry is fastest, smoothest car with shortest braking distance in it's class.
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Re: Where's Honda? [lucky_777]
by joe97
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Sep 18, 2008 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: lucky_777 (Sep 18, 2008 6:54 am)
Otherwise 4 cyl Camry is fastest, smoothest car with shortest braking distance in it's class.
Right now I think Malibu and Sonata are 1-2 in stopping distances, although the Sonata has the slimest margin over the 3rd place Camry.
I can't give you fastest even w/ better tires. Passat and Altima stand in as much faster sprinters.
I would argue the Sonata has the smoothest ride but certainly a better set of tires could improve the already smooth Camry.
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Re: Where's Honda? [joe97]
by aviboy97
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Sep 18, 2008 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Sep 18, 2008 12:04 pm)
The Mazda6 4 cyl has yet to be tested. I would assume that it would rank near the top, since all cars Mazda produces tend to hang out in the top of driving dynamic category's , like braking.
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