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13340 messages, Last post on Dec 06, 2009 at 10:12 PM
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Replying to: backy (Sep 15, 2008 6:48 pm) The 2008 Fusion didn't have it but ESC is now available on the 2009 models.
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Replying to: canddmeyer (Sep 16, 2008 2:26 am) |
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Replying to: akirby (Sep 16, 2008 4:36 am)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 16, 2008 7:22 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Sep 16, 2008 8:16 am)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 16, 2008 9:03 am) It's easier to factory order a Ford the way you want it than an import, so getting exactly what you want is just a matter of waiting 4-6 weeks in most cases.
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Replying to: akirby (Sep 16, 2008 10:05 am) September 2011. |
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Golly, how many engines does Toyota produce? Referring to the RAV4 for 2009, From Carscoop.Blogspot.com : The new 2.5L unit that produces 179 HP at 6,000 RPM, along with 172 lb.-ft. of torque at 4,000 RPM (versus 166 HP and 165 lb.-ft. respectively of the previous 2.4L), is matted to a new 4-speed automatic transmission. According to Toyota, fuel efficiency is improved over the 2008 RAV-4 2.4L with EPA mpg estimates of 22 city/28 highway on 4x2 models and 21 city/27 highway on 4x4 models. The top-of-the-line 269 HP 3.5-liter V6 remains unchanged. I guess THIS is what will go into the 2010 Camry. Makes more sense than the 2.7L. It'll be more torquey than either of Honda's 2.4L engines. A plus in these ever-heavier midsize sedans.
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It seems that Honda, which was once a leader in engineering engines that were top of the class in power vs. economy is slacking. Toyota's Camry has the 2GR 3.5L which is a mileage leader AND the class-leader in acceleration as well. They have a 6-speed Auto, as does Ford, Mazda, VW, and General Motors. Nissan has upped the ante more with a good implementation of a CVT, and should be applauded for making a 4-cylinder engine that rivals some V6 engines in acceleration, all with city fuel economy and torque that is top of the class. Honda's engine is lacking in torque (either one, the 4-cyl models vs. other 4s or the V6 vs other V6s), but doesn't "make it all better" with great economy; if anything, the real-world fuel economy seems to have taken a nosedive compared to the previous generation. Even the once-lowly Hyundai Sonata matches or beats the Accord with its fuel economy, all without VCM; a system which has been a problem in a number of cars (check out the Accord VCM Thread here on Edmunds). *Steps off Soapbox* Sorry, I just had to get that out. Honda went from being a class leader in powertrains and performance in the previous generation to being mediocre/midpack in one generation. Did making the Accord big and beefy also make it too big for its britches?
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 17, 2008 7:07 am)
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