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13378 messages, Last post on Dec 09, 2009 at 5:08 AM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#10795 of 13378 Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [stephen987] by backy Sep 15, 2008 (7:03 pm)
Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 15, 2008 6:55 pm) You would probably be happiest with the Civic or Mazda3 then, maybe the Elantra SE. Good luck!
#10796 of 13378 Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22] by canddmeyer Sep 16, 2008 (2:26 am)
Replying to: nick_22 (Sep 13, 2008 12:42 pm) If you want to eliminate road noise, then eliminate the Accord. If build quality is important, then eliminate the V6 Accord and V6 Camry. Sit in the back seat of any vehicle you test, so you'll know what your passengers are in for. Replies to this message: lucky_777 (Sep 16, 2008 5:40 am)
#10797 of 13378 Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [backy] by akirby Sep 16, 2008 (4:36 am)
Replying to: backy (Sep 15, 2008 6:48 pm) *But a Fusion S is pretty bare-bones, and is one of the few cars in this class that doesn't have ESC even available.* The 2008 Fusion didn't have it but ESC is now available on the 2009 models. Replies to this message: backy (Sep 16, 2008 7:22 am) akirby (Sep 16, 2008 8:16 am) backy (Sep 16, 2008 9:03 am) and 2 more...
#10798 of 13378 Re: help me choose a sedan [canddmeyer] by lucky_777 Sep 16, 2008 (5:40 am)
Replying to: canddmeyer (Sep 16, 2008 2:26 am) What's wrong with V6 Camry? 3.5L Toyota V6 is a well proven engine. Most problems with 6 spd auto Camry transmissions resolved.
#10799 of 13378 Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [akirby] by backy Sep 16, 2008 (7:22 am)
Replying to: akirby (Sep 16, 2008 4:36 am) Yes, but he was looking specifically at a 2008 Fusion. ESC is optional for 2009, right? Not standard as on the Accord, Mazda6, Passat, Sonata, Aura (some trims), and Malibu (some trims)? Replies to this message: akirby (Sep 16, 2008 8:16 am) backy (Sep 16, 2008 9:03 am) akirby (Sep 16, 2008 10:05 am) and 1 more...
#10800 of 13378 Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [backy] by akirby Sep 16, 2008 (8:16 am)
Replying to: backy (Sep 16, 2008 7:22 am) I know but the way you phrased it might lead some to believe it still isn't available at all. And what difference does it make whether it's optional or standard? It's available. Replies to this message: backy (Sep 16, 2008 9:03 am) akirby (Sep 16, 2008 10:05 am) thegraduate (Sep 16, 2008 10:21 am)
#10801 of 13378 Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [akirby] by backy Sep 16, 2008 (9:03 am)
Replying to: akirby (Sep 16, 2008 8:16 am) It could make a huge difference depending on how widely available the option is. For example, ABS/ESC is optional on the Optima. But just try to find a car with that package! Hopefully it will be a widely available option, on all trims of the Fusion (and Milan). Replies to this message: akirby (Sep 16, 2008 10:05 am) thegraduate (Sep 16, 2008 10:21 am)
#10802 of 13378 Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [backy] by akirby Sep 16, 2008 (10:05 am)
Replying to: backy (Sep 16, 2008 9:03 am) I thought ESC was going to be required on all vehicles at some point.....? It's easier to factory order a Ford the way you want it than an import, so getting exactly what you want is just a matter of waiting 4-6 weeks in most cases. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Sep 16, 2008 10:21 am)
#10803 of 13378 Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [akirby] by thegraduate Sep 16, 2008 (10:21 am)
Replying to: akirby (Sep 16, 2008 10:05 am) I thought ESC was going to be required on all vehicles at some point.....? September 2011.
#10804 of 13378 Toyota 2.5L by thegraduate Sep 17, 2008 (7:07 am)
Golly, how many engines does Toyota produce? Referring to the RAV4 for 2009, From Carscoop.Blogspot.com : The new 2.5L unit that produces 179 HP at 6,000 RPM, along with 172 lb.-ft. of torque at 4,000 RPM (versus 166 HP and 165 lb.-ft. respectively of the previous 2.4L), is matted to a new 4-speed automatic transmission. According to Toyota, fuel efficiency is improved over the 2008 RAV-4 2.4L with EPA mpg estimates of 22 city/28 highway on 4x2 models and 21 city/27 highway on 4x4 models. The top-of-the-line 269 HP 3.5-liter V6 remains unchanged. I guess THIS is what will go into the 2010 Camry. Makes more sense than the 2.7L. It'll be more torquey than either of Honda's 2.4L engines. A plus in these ever-heavier midsize sedans. Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Sep 17, 2008 9:28 am) thegraduate (Sep 17, 2008 9:34 am) backy (Sep 17, 2008 9:40 am) and 2 more...

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