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Re: Toyota Camry 2.7L? [lucky_777]
by thegraduate
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Sep 15, 2008 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: lucky_777 (Sep 15, 2008 9:56 am)
If you'll notice I didn't say my Accord was the 08 model; it is a 2006 with 166hp. I don't care for the new Accord or Camry either one, actually. I'd like to drive a new Mazda 6, and take another look at the Altima, if I had to replace my Accord.
Per Motor Trend
Accord LX-SE 5AT
2006 0-60 - 8.1s
Camry LE 5AT
2007 0-60 - 8.7s
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Re: Toyota Camry 2.7L? [thegraduate]
by lucky_777
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Sep 15, 2008 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 15, 2008 10:38 am)
Why would you compare current Camry with old generation Accord that was discontinued a year ago?I had 6 gen Accord for worry free 9 years and really wanted to like a new one but ended up buying 09 Camry.
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Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [stephen987]
by aviboy97
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Sep 15, 2008 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 15, 2008 10:10 am)
Yes, more economical and powerful then the Mazda3. At 170hp, it is rated at 30hwy and 21city, but yet, real world FE from the first owners show it at 32hwy so far, without the engine being broken in.
If you are looking for a mtx, they are just starting to pop up. I have two, one of which is a i Sport. It really is very very smooth and really quick. I was really pleased with my first drive.
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Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [aviboy97]
by stephen987
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Sep 15, 2008 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 15, 2008 11:05 am)
I've driven the Honda equivalent of the 6i Sport, an Accord LX-P five-speed, and I was impressed with it in a lot of ways, but it seemed a little "disconnected" compared to our Civic. That's the same complaint I have with our '02 Accord--it feels "big" in a negative way, a bit overdamped in its responses.
I rented an '08 Milan recently for a couple of weeks and it was much more direct than the Accord--it felt more like the Civic, or even a little like my dad's old 3-series. If the Mazda6 has that level of steering feel and balance, it might be worth making the 100-mile drive to the Atlanta dealerships that have some variety in stock. (Our local Mazda dealer is very much a lowest-common-denominator place.)
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Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [stephen987]
by aviboy97
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Sep 15, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 15, 2008 11:29 am)
The 09 Mazda6 will feel more connected to the road then a Milan. Drive it. I think you will be pleased.
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Re: Toyota Camry 2.7L? [lucky_777]
by thegraduate
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Sep 15, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: lucky_777 (Sep 15, 2008 10:56 am)
Because I'm comparing what I have in relation to what is out there; is that a problem? And, when I shopped and decided on my 06 Accord, the Camry was still all of those things (not nearly as frisky as the Accord). I use my current car as a measuring stick for what I"m going to replace it with. If I don't find something I like better I won't trade. It's that simple. 
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Re: Toyota Camry 2.7L? [thegraduate]
by stephen987
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Sep 15, 2008 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 15, 2008 1:30 pm)
Sounds sensible to me.
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Re: help me choose a sedan [ergsum]
by moocow1
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Sep 15, 2008 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: ergsum (Sep 15, 2008 9:52 am)
And don't forget that the Sonata is thousands cheaper than the volkswagen. Also if you think the suspension is too spongy, you could always go for the Sonata SE model.
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Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [stephen987]
by backy
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Sep 15, 2008 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 15, 2008 9:46 am)
Unless you really have to have a moonroof, I'd take the Accord LX-P over the Civic EX. As was noted, the 6i SV is probably not available, and it's sorely lacking in basic equipment. And the Sonata GLS actually costs less than the (rare) Elantra SE in today's world, with much bigger rebates and discounts available on the Sonata. And their FE is not much different.
For $14.6K for a basic year-old Fusion, I'd rather get a 2009 Sonata with a full complement of safety features including ESC and the longer warranty, and IMO a much nicer interior. You could also pick up a loaded, low-miles Fusion or Milan for that price.
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Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [backy]
by stephen987
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Sep 15, 2008 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 15, 2008 5:34 pm)
Well, the '08 Fusion in question is new, so even though the '09s are already on the lot, I don't think of it as a year old (though I'm sure my insurance company would if I totaled it in a week). And an '09 Sonata would cost at least $1500 more, even if you could find one here with a manual transmission, according to CarsDirect.
Actually, I only mention the Fusion because the driving dynamics remind me of the Civic. Everything I've read about the Sonata GLS says it's softer than the Accord, and that's the wrong direction for me. I'd be more likely to consider a Sonata SE if I could find one with the I4, but then we're back to Accord/Mazda6 prices, well beyond the bargain basement territory of the "leftover" Fusion.
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