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Re: Toyota Camry 2.7L? [lucky_777] by stephen987
Sep 15, 2008 (9:27 am)
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Replying to: lucky_777 (Sep 15, 2008 8:57 am)

But hasn't the 2.7L I-4 been in the Tacoma for a couple of years already?
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upper-level compact, or basic midsize? by stephen987
Sep 15, 2008 (9:46 am)
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Hi, folks. An interesting question has come up. Here's the background:
 
  • Our current vehicles are an '02 Accord V6 with 76k and a '99 Civic EX 5-speed with 138k

  • My wife and I are reasonably pleased with both cars, but both prefer to drive the Civic when we have a choice, because of its nimble, fun nature compared to the "maturity" of the driving experience in the Accord

  • Gas is selling for $4.50 per gallon here in Jawjah

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    With these factors in mind, we are beginning to think about the possibility of replacing one or both of our current cars. (The Dodge truck will continue to sit underneath the oak tree in the back yard).
     
    The riddle is this: with aging relatives and a fair amount of medium-length (3-4 hour) trips on the agenda, we might still need a midsize sedan for comfort, but not necessarily for space, as we do not have children--just three cats. But our budget would probably dictate a four-cylinder model this time, with less equipment than our '02. For the same money as a basic midsize, we could probably get a really nice compact. Among the possibilities:
     
  • Accord LX-P vs. Civic EX

  • Mazda 6i SV or Sport vs. Mazda 3s Touring

  • Sonata GLS vs. Elantra SE

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    So I'm wondering what the group thinks on this subject. There's also the "wildcard"--a local dealer is advertising an '08 Fusion S, five speed manual, for $14,599.
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    Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [stephen987] by aviboy97
    Sep 15, 2008 (9:51 am)
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    Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 15, 2008 9:46 am)

    I would not put the Mazda6 SV on your list. They are a special order car only. I have yet to be able to order one for our inventory. Basically, you won't be able to get one.
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    Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22] by ergsum
    Sep 15, 2008 (9:52 am)
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    Replying to: nick_22 (Sep 13, 2008 1:19 pm)

    The 2009 Sonata I4 Se placed second behind the Volkswagen in a Motor Trend comparison of ten midsize family sedans.
     
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    Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [aviboy97] by stephen987
    Sep 15, 2008 (9:54 am)
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    Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 15, 2008 9:51 am)

    Good info to have--it's nice to have insight from a dealer.
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    Re: Toyota Camry 2.7L? [thegraduate] by lucky_777
    Sep 15, 2008 (9:56 am)
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    Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 15, 2008 9:14 am)

    Surprisingly Camry 2.4 L I4 is faster then Accord I4 or Malibu in 0-60 mph. Because of the quiet and smooth ride it just doesn't feel very quick.
     
    "our-cylinder Toyota Camry is quick relative to its competition. Our LE test car's 8.9-second 0-60-mph time is tops for this group, as is its 16.9-second quarter-mile at 82.3 mph (though the Accord, which has 19 more horsepower, nearly closed the gap)."
     
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=124091
     
    While Accord is fine automobile it's ride is more harsh and noisy then Camry, gives you impression of fast pick up. It is all subjective feeling. Facts prove otherwise.
     
    BTW Camry also has best brakes and turning radius in the group
     
    "Life in Camryland isn't all bad, though. It turns a tighter circle at 36.1 feet than either the Accord at 37.7 feet or Malibu at 40.4 feet, making it less stressful to maneuver in crowded areas. The Toyota also stopped the shortest from 60 mph at 122 feet."
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    Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [stephen987] by aviboy97
    Sep 15, 2008 (10:08 am)
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    Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 15, 2008 9:54 am)

    The Mazda6 i Sport is a pretty good value. I would opt for one over a Mazda3 s Touring. Safety features are the same, and the Mazda6 is more economical, larger, quieter and more refined. They are also very very close in price. I would go for the Mazda6 i Sport over the Mazda3 s Touring if it came down to the two.
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    Re: upper-level compact, or basic midsize? [aviboy97] by stephen987
    Sep 15, 2008 (10:10 am)
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    Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 15, 2008 10:08 am)

    More economical? I missed that--is it because of the six-speed? (Or were you talking about the '08 model?)
     
    Also, how difficult is it to find an '09 Mazda 6i with the manual transmission?
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    Re: Toyota Camry 2.7L? [lucky_777] by thegraduate
    Sep 15, 2008 (10:38 am)
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    Replying to: lucky_777 (Sep 15, 2008 9:56 am)

    If you'll notice I didn't say my Accord was the 08 model; it is a 2006 with 166hp. I don't care for the new Accord or Camry either one, actually. I'd like to drive a new Mazda 6, and take another look at the Altima, if I had to replace my Accord.
     
    Per Motor Trend
     
    Accord LX-SE 5AT
    2006 0-60 - 8.1s
     
    Camry LE 5AT
    2007 0-60 - 8.7s
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    Re: Toyota Camry 2.7L? [thegraduate] by lucky_777
    Sep 15, 2008 (10:56 am)
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    Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 15, 2008 10:38 am)

    Why would you compare current Camry with old generation Accord that was discontinued a year ago?I had 6 gen Accord for worry free 9 years and really wanted to like a new one but ended up buying 09 Camry.

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