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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#10759 of 20194 Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22]
Sep 13, 2008 (12:23 pm)
Five or ten years ago that would've been easy (Honda, Toyota, then a long steep dropoff). Now it's not--cars like the Fusion and Sonata are much better than their precursors of a few years ago. I haven't driven the latest versions of some of these cars, but there seems to be a consensus with regard to the following points:
1. Honda and Toyota no longer have a monopoly on good build quality. Many would say that they have slipped, while other cars have stepped up a notch. Also, the Toyota has lots of engine but handles too softly for my taste.
2. If driving performance (meaning acceleration, handling, "fun to drive") is a priority, then the 2009 Mazda 6 ought to be on your short list.
3. The Fusion, which is based loosely on the previous-generation Mazda 6 platform, is a bit underpowered for some tastes but handles well and can be purchased for a lot less than most of the cars on the list if you are willing to push the dealership a little.
4. The Sonata and Optima are very good well built middle-of-the-road choices that offer good performance and economy for a good price.
5. If you're looking at the GM sedans, you would do well to consider the Saturn Aura rather than the Pontiac G6.
6. One frequent poster in this forum really loves his Sebring because of the electronic gadgets and the sound system. I'm glad he's happy with it. But most reports describe the Sebring and the Avenger in unflattering terms when compared to the rest of the cars on your list.
7. It's really hard to go wrong in the midsize sedan market right now, because most of the choices are quite good.
Having said all that, the five I'd go test drive would be the Mazda, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, and Ford. Then I'd pick the one that felt "right" to me.
#10760 of 20194 Re: help me choose a sedan [stephen987]
Sep 13, 2008 (12:42 pm)
well, really, the number 1 priority for me is how much interior room there is, the second priority would be build quality
I plan to test drive all these cars shortly, but could people that already own/have owned or have test-driven these cars tell me which would be first in terms of interior room and build quality
EDIT: the car also has to be fairly luxurious and quiet on the road ( not a lot of road noise)
#10761 of 20194 Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22]
Sep 13, 2008 (1:13 pm)
If those are the top priority, look at the Sonata and the Accord first.
#10762 of 20194 Re: help me choose a sedan [stephen987]
Sep 13, 2008 (1:16 pm)
Another option, if our young friend lives in one of the hghly competitive areas, is the Hyundai Azera, It's only about 3 inches longer than the Sonata and is just loaded with features. Azera Limited (without Ultimate pkg) is easily available for under $25 in the competitive areas.
#10763 of 20194 Re: help me choose a sedan [bhmr59]
Sep 13, 2008 (1:19 pm)
the Azera is registered as a full-size sedan, so I'm not really sure about it's price or mileage, but I'll check it out nonetheless
oh yeah, and the Sonata has gotten horrible reviews from some of the sites I've been on
as well, I've heard good things about the Ford Mondeo, but apparently, it's only available in Europe, is that true?
#10764 of 20194 Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22]
Sep 13, 2008 (2:05 pm)
Yes, the Mondeo is a European-market car and unavailable in the US. That doesn't stop many US automotive writers from being envious though.
I would second the idea of taking a look at the Hyundai Azera. The Ford Taurus is also worth examining if interior room is a top priority.
As those who have been following this forum for a long time can attest, the idea of a "midsize sedan" is difficult to define. For many of us, the real question is "of the sedans I can buy for $25k, which one suits me best?" Fuel economy is often similar--compare the midsize Ford Fusion V6 to the fullsize Ford Taurus and you'll get a surprise--the Taurus, a bigger car with a bigger engine, still gets the same city mileage and better highway mileage according to EPA.
I'd be interested to see where you found negative reviews of the Sonata--pretty much everything I've seen about the current version is very positive, including reviews at Edmunds.com, Car & Driver, Consumer Reports, and various syndicated automotive columns.
#10765 of 20194 Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22]
Sep 13, 2008 (5:21 pm)
I own a 2006 Sonata GLS V6 and I've been very happy with it so far. It has just under 25K miles on it. I can't recall reading any "horrible" Sonata reviews... and I've read reviews by all the major auto mags. The 2006/07/08 Sonatas are right up there with the Camry and Accord in regards to overall quality and refinement. The 2009's are even better - nicer interior, best in class EPA, etc. You might be surprised if you test drive one.
#10766 of 20194 Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22]
Sep 13, 2008 (5:30 pm)
I was wondering if people on these forums could help me narrow it down to the top 3 based on space, build quality, equipment, safety, value, and driving performance...
You didn't mention "style", which I applaud you for but let's be realistic, you're 17 so I'll bet style counts for something here, right? You also didn't say what kind of "equipment" is most important to you. If you drive in the snow a lot, for example, that might tilt AWD cars like the Legacy, Fusion, and Milan in your favor.
You didn't mention "fuel economy" in your list. But unless your folks are going to help you buy gas, I'd think that is important to you too.
But anyway.... based on your list, plus the assumption that fuel economy and style both count for something, here's my top 3:
* Sonata SE I4: Perhaps the best value in the segment, a fine blend of handling and ride, one of the roomiest interiors and trunks, tons of standard safety equipment, sharp interior and decent exterior, and a peppy but economical I4.
* Mazda6 I4: Perhaps the sharpest looks in the segment, good power with decent if not great fuel economy, good blend of ride comfort and handling, lots of standard safety equipment, one of the roomiest interiors and trunks in the class, and lots of equipment available. Also the newest design in the class, so it won't be old very soon.
* Accord LX-P: Roomiest interior in the class, great reputation for quality and reliability, good blend of ride and handling, great resale value, peppy engine (EX has a little more power than LX-P) with good fuel economy, BMW-esque exterior, has all the basic features you need, great standard safety features and crash protection.
Another interesting choice would be the Passat. You could probably find a closeout 2008 for under $25k. Doesn't have the same reputation for reliability as do cars like the Accord and Sonata, but has great power, handling, build quality, and safety, and VWs tend to hold their value.
#10767 of 20194 Re: tough decision/dilema [hp6130]
Sep 14, 2008 (3:44 am)
So you eliminated the Sonata...care to say why? I love Sonatas and KIA Optimas,so when someone does not like them I am curious why that is.
#10768 of 20194 Re: tough decision/dilema [mickeyrom]
Sep 14, 2008 (9:25 am)
Sonata reminds me of a Buick with it's soft suspension, uninspiring handling and soft seats. Sonata is even more Buick-like than Camry.