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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Edmunds comparo test [jeffyscott] by baggs32
Sep 10, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 09, 2008 8:17 am)

To me, more tossable = more fun to drive
 
To some that is true. I found that the V6 was more fun to drive when I test drove simply because of the extra power. There was a noticeable difference in handling between the I4 and the V6 but I liked the extra power hands down.
 
I was more or less stating that because I didn't want to get flamed by those who also felt the V6 was more fun to drive. But thank you for pointing that out and making it clearer for all.
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To talk about mid-size sedans. by carfanforever
Sep 12, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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I love the new Mazda 6. That car is gorgeous, and the handling and power sound right on the money. The outgoing model was a three-run homer, this one is a grand slam!
 
I have owned Camrys, Accords, Luminas, Maximas, Grands Prix, and many other mid-sized sedans too.
 
I love the new Chevy Malibu too. We need an SS version.
 
The Camry is sharp and very attractive.
 
The new Accord is a huge improvement over the looks of the older model.
 
The Altima is great, sports car handling with musclecar speed.
 
I am in love with the new Maxima.
 
The Ford Fusion is a stylish and sporty little car.
 
The mid-sized sedan category just might be the most varied and interesting one in all of new automobiledom.
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help me choose a sedan by nick_22
Sep 13, 2008 (6:28 am)
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I'm a fairly new driver (17) and my parents have agreed to help me pay for a car under $25,000 MSRP
 
I'm interested in buying a 4-door mid-size sedan (which means not a small car like the civic/corolla)
 
so I suppose, realistically, I have this to choose from:
 
Honda Accord
Mazda 6
Toyota Camry
Ford Fusion
Chevy Malibu
Dodge Avenger
Chrysler Sebring
Hyundai Sonata
Subaru Legacy
Kia Optima
Pontiac G6
 
I was wondering if people on these forums could help me narrow it down to the top 3 based on space, build quality, equipment, safety, value, and driving performance
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Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22] by stephen987
Sep 13, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: nick_22 (Sep 13, 2008 6:28 am)

Five or ten years ago that would've been easy (Honda, Toyota, then a long steep dropoff). Now it's not--cars like the Fusion and Sonata are much better than their precursors of a few years ago. I haven't driven the latest versions of some of these cars, but there seems to be a consensus with regard to the following points:
 
1. Honda and Toyota no longer have a monopoly on good build quality. Many would say that they have slipped, while other cars have stepped up a notch. Also, the Toyota has lots of engine but handles too softly for my taste.
 
2. If driving performance (meaning acceleration, handling, "fun to drive") is a priority, then the 2009 Mazda 6 ought to be on your short list.
 
3. The Fusion, which is based loosely on the previous-generation Mazda 6 platform, is a bit underpowered for some tastes but handles well and can be purchased for a lot less than most of the cars on the list if you are willing to push the dealership a little.
 
4. The Sonata and Optima are very good well built middle-of-the-road choices that offer good performance and economy for a good price.
 
5. If you're looking at the GM sedans, you would do well to consider the Saturn Aura rather than the Pontiac G6.
 
6. One frequent poster in this forum really loves his Sebring because of the electronic gadgets and the sound system. I'm glad he's happy with it. But most reports describe the Sebring and the Avenger in unflattering terms when compared to the rest of the cars on your list.
 
7. It's really hard to go wrong in the midsize sedan market right now, because most of the choices are quite good.
 
Having said all that, the five I'd go test drive would be the Mazda, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, and Ford. Then I'd pick the one that felt "right" to me.
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Re: help me choose a sedan [stephen987] by nick_22
Sep 13, 2008 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 13, 2008 12:23 pm)

well, really, the number 1 priority for me is how much interior room there is, the second priority would be build quality
 
I plan to test drive all these cars shortly, but could people that already own/have owned or have test-driven these cars tell me which would be first in terms of interior room and build quality
 
EDIT: the car also has to be fairly luxurious and quiet on the road ( not a lot of road noise)
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Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22] by stephen987
Sep 13, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: nick_22 (Sep 13, 2008 12:42 pm)

If those are the top priority, look at the Sonata and the Accord first.
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Re: help me choose a sedan [stephen987] by bhmr59
Sep 13, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 13, 2008 12:23 pm)

Another option, if our young friend lives in one of the hghly competitive areas, is the Hyundai Azera, It's only about 3 inches longer than the Sonata and is just loaded with features. Azera Limited (without Ultimate pkg) is easily available for under $25 in the competitive areas.
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Re: help me choose a sedan [bhmr59] by nick_22
Sep 13, 2008 (1:19 pm)
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Sep 13, 2008 1:16 pm)

the Azera is registered as a full-size sedan, so I'm not really sure about it's price or mileage, but I'll check it out nonetheless
 
oh yeah, and the Sonata has gotten horrible reviews from some of the sites I've been on
 
as well, I've heard good things about the Ford Mondeo, but apparently, it's only available in Europe, is that true?
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Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22] by stephen987
Sep 13, 2008 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: nick_22 (Sep 13, 2008 1:19 pm)

Nick_22,
 
Yes, the Mondeo is a European-market car and unavailable in the US. That doesn't stop many US automotive writers from being envious though.
 
I would second the idea of taking a look at the Hyundai Azera. The Ford Taurus is also worth examining if interior room is a top priority.
 
As those who have been following this forum for a long time can attest, the idea of a "midsize sedan" is difficult to define. For many of us, the real question is "of the sedans I can buy for $25k, which one suits me best?" Fuel economy is often similar--compare the midsize Ford Fusion V6 to the fullsize Ford Taurus and you'll get a surprise--the Taurus, a bigger car with a bigger engine, still gets the same city mileage and better highway mileage according to EPA.
 
I'd be interested to see where you found negative reviews of the Sonata--pretty much everything I've seen about the current version is very positive, including reviews at Edmunds.com, Car & Driver, Consumer Reports, and various syndicated automotive columns.
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Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22] by aqua33v6
Sep 13, 2008 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: nick_22 (Sep 13, 2008 1:19 pm)

I own a 2006 Sonata GLS V6 and I've been very happy with it so far. It has just under 25K miles on it. I can't recall reading any "horrible" Sonata reviews... and I've read reviews by all the major auto mags. The 2006/07/08 Sonatas are right up there with the Camry and Accord in regards to overall quality and refinement. The 2009's are even better - nicer interior, best in class EPA, etc. You might be surprised if you test drive one.

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