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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Edmunds comparo test [m6user] by thegraduate
Sep 08, 2008 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Sep 08, 2008 9:52 am)

I believe that the Accord does not change from EX to EX-L trim with regards to handling upgrades.
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [m6user] by aviboy97
Sep 09, 2008 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Sep 08, 2008 9:16 am)

Mazda6 suspension does not change throughout the entire car line. The only changing variable is the wheel size (16, 17, and 18)
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [aviboy97] by baggs32
Sep 09, 2008 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 09, 2008 6:32 am)

Mazda6 suspension does not change throughout the entire car line. The only changing variable is the wheel size (16, 17, and 18)
 
Also the weight and weight bias. At least that's the way it was in the last gen. The I4 was always deemed more tossable, not more fun to drive mind you, due to it's better weight bias and lower curb weight compared to the V6.
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [baggs32] by jeffyscott
Sep 09, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Sep 09, 2008 8:15 am)

To me, more tossable = more fun to drive
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [jeffyscott] by baggs32
Sep 10, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 09, 2008 8:17 am)

To me, more tossable = more fun to drive
 
To some that is true. I found that the V6 was more fun to drive when I test drove simply because of the extra power. There was a noticeable difference in handling between the I4 and the V6 but I liked the extra power hands down.
 
I was more or less stating that because I didn't want to get flamed by those who also felt the V6 was more fun to drive. But thank you for pointing that out and making it clearer for all.
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To talk about mid-size sedans. by carfanforever
Sep 12, 2008 (3:09 pm)
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I love the new Mazda 6. That car is gorgeous, and the handling and power sound right on the money. The outgoing model was a three-run homer, this one is a grand slam!
 
I have owned Camrys, Accords, Luminas, Maximas, Grands Prix, and many other mid-sized sedans too.
 
I love the new Chevy Malibu too. We need an SS version.
 
The Camry is sharp and very attractive.
 
The new Accord is a huge improvement over the looks of the older model.
 
The Altima is great, sports car handling with musclecar speed.
 
I am in love with the new Maxima.
 
The Ford Fusion is a stylish and sporty little car.
 
The mid-sized sedan category just might be the most varied and interesting one in all of new automobiledom.
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help me choose a sedan by nick_22
Sep 13, 2008 (6:28 am)
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I'm a fairly new driver (17) and my parents have agreed to help me pay for a car under $25,000 MSRP
 
I'm interested in buying a 4-door mid-size sedan (which means not a small car like the civic/corolla)
 
so I suppose, realistically, I have this to choose from:
 
Honda Accord
Mazda 6
Toyota Camry
Ford Fusion
Chevy Malibu
Dodge Avenger
Chrysler Sebring
Hyundai Sonata
Subaru Legacy
Kia Optima
Pontiac G6
 
I was wondering if people on these forums could help me narrow it down to the top 3 based on space, build quality, equipment, safety, value, and driving performance
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Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22] by stephen987
Sep 13, 2008 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: nick_22 (Sep 13, 2008 6:28 am)

Five or ten years ago that would've been easy (Honda, Toyota, then a long steep dropoff). Now it's not--cars like the Fusion and Sonata are much better than their precursors of a few years ago. I haven't driven the latest versions of some of these cars, but there seems to be a consensus with regard to the following points:
 
1. Honda and Toyota no longer have a monopoly on good build quality. Many would say that they have slipped, while other cars have stepped up a notch. Also, the Toyota has lots of engine but handles too softly for my taste.
 
2. If driving performance (meaning acceleration, handling, "fun to drive") is a priority, then the 2009 Mazda 6 ought to be on your short list.
 
3. The Fusion, which is based loosely on the previous-generation Mazda 6 platform, is a bit underpowered for some tastes but handles well and can be purchased for a lot less than most of the cars on the list if you are willing to push the dealership a little.
 
4. The Sonata and Optima are very good well built middle-of-the-road choices that offer good performance and economy for a good price.
 
5. If you're looking at the GM sedans, you would do well to consider the Saturn Aura rather than the Pontiac G6.
 
6. One frequent poster in this forum really loves his Sebring because of the electronic gadgets and the sound system. I'm glad he's happy with it. But most reports describe the Sebring and the Avenger in unflattering terms when compared to the rest of the cars on your list.
 
7. It's really hard to go wrong in the midsize sedan market right now, because most of the choices are quite good.
 
Having said all that, the five I'd go test drive would be the Mazda, Honda, Nissan, Hyundai, and Ford. Then I'd pick the one that felt "right" to me.
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Re: help me choose a sedan [stephen987] by nick_22
Sep 13, 2008 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Sep 13, 2008 12:23 pm)

well, really, the number 1 priority for me is how much interior room there is, the second priority would be build quality
 
I plan to test drive all these cars shortly, but could people that already own/have owned or have test-driven these cars tell me which would be first in terms of interior room and build quality
 
EDIT: the car also has to be fairly luxurious and quiet on the road ( not a lot of road noise)
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Re: help me choose a sedan [nick_22] by stephen987
Sep 13, 2008 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: nick_22 (Sep 13, 2008 12:42 pm)

If those are the top priority, look at the Sonata and the Accord first.

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