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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Edmunds comparo test [maxamillion1] by backy
Sep 08, 2008 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Sep 08, 2008 7:00 am)

I would have liked Edmunds to include the Sonata SE V6 in the comparo, since they haven't tested it yet and it has done well elsewhere, e.g. 2nd in MT's recent 10-car comparo of I4 sedans, where it bested everyone except the Passat.
 
Which begs the question... where was the Passat in Edmunds' comparo? Or the Malibu LTZ?
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [backy] by maxamillion1
Sep 08, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 08, 2008 7:27 am)

The Sonata would have been another good choice for the test as well. I guess since the Malibu came in 3rd place the last go round, Edmunds decided not to compare the car again. Maybe they figured the 6 would slot somewhere between (or in this case) above the last top two sedans compared in the test. That may have been the same reason the Camry was left out of the Comparison test as well. Didnt it come in dead last in the last Edmunds V6 comparison???
 
It really wouldn't make sense to compare the Passat to the other three midsize V6 sedans considering the price of a V6 Passat would put it well into Acura TL territory and the fact that for MY09 the Passat will only be available with the 2.0t four cylinder engine in "Komfort" trim. Using an 08 probably would have been more of a hassle to obtain too. All 09 model Passats will be four cylinders..no more "Turbo", "Lux" or "VR6" models. and no more manual transmissions either
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [gooddeal2] by thegraduate
Sep 08, 2008 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Sep 08, 2008 7:24 am)

but there are so many buttons that it requires either thorough pre-flight study or too much on-the-fly attention to navigate the myriad buttons, displays, knobs and dials.
  
That's the reason I hate Accord the most especially the '07.

 
But the 07 model didn't have that many buttons!
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [backy] by aviboy97
Sep 08, 2008 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: backy (Sep 08, 2008 7:27 am)

This was a V6 comparo, not an I4 comparo. Maybe that is why it was left out. I have a funny feeling that the performance numbers would have been creamed by all three competitors.
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [aviboy97] by backy
Sep 08, 2008 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 08, 2008 7:46 am)

I'm not so sure about that. In the MT comparo, the Passat 2.0T turned in some excellent performance numbers including 0-60 and was far and away the favorite in terms of handling. The Passat doesn't seem to get much print in general in these comparos (except the recent MT one).
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [thegraduate] by gooddeal2
Sep 08, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 08, 2008 7:36 am)

But the 07 model didn't have that many buttons!
 
I'm not sure but when I went to look at the '07 last year, I was shocked by all of those buttons. I drove my friend '08 in July and I think it's cleaner than the '07.
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [gooddeal2] by thegraduate
Sep 08, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Sep 08, 2008 8:00 am)

I'll respectfully disagree .
 
The 08 has buttons laid out in what looks to be a haphazard way. Drastically different font sizes and odd shapes make the thing look cheesy to me. I like the cleaner look of the 2007 (more business-like).
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [aviboy97] by m6user
Sep 08, 2008 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Sep 08, 2008 7:46 am)

Backy said he would have liked to see the SE V6 in the comparo.....he just referenced the I4 MT comparo.
 
It's obvious that Edmunds left out a large number of other midsize V6 sedans so it's a time waster to try and figure out exactly why they left out a particular model. IMO they wanted to get a comparo done quickly with the new Mazda6 and picked a couple of other midsizers that in normal V6 trim are commonly thought to be the "sportiest". Although I really don't think the Accord falls into that category as much anymore. The Camry and the Sonata would have to have the SE trim which is not the standard handling package. To my knowledge, the suspension/handling on the Accord, Altima and Mazda6 are the same throughtout the different trim levels.
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [m6user] by thegraduate
Sep 08, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Sep 08, 2008 9:16 am)

Nissan's website states the Altima SE-V6 has "retuned struts/shocks, stiffer springs, and thicker front (24.2 mm) and rear (18.3 mm) stabilizer bars" versus the other models. The SE-V6 also has P215/55VR17 All-season tires versus the SL's P215/60TR16 All-season tires.
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Re: Edmunds comparo test [thegraduate] by m6user
Sep 08, 2008 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 08, 2008 9:42 am)

Thanks, didn't realize that. Off hand do you know if the Accord changes in the different V6 trims?.

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