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Re: Used Car prices for mid-size I4 sedans [m6user] by moveover
Aug 28, 2008 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 6:57 pm)

The $17,200 for the 08 Mazda6 is probably about $600-$800 more than they are going for in Chicago although there are very few 08s left. I've seen some used priced at maybe 16,900 with very low miles but that is obviously not what they are getting for them. I would think that $17,200 used car will end up getting bought for no more than $16000 if that.
 
Might be true, but you have to look at the options too. Most VE's in this area did have auto, sunroofs and/or spoiler which can easily add $800 to the price. Our VE had a MSRP of $22.1K and we paid $17 and probably could have done better in May.
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Re: Used Car prices for mid-size I4 sedans [moveover] by m6user
Aug 28, 2008 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: moveover (Aug 28, 2008 7:19 pm)

I would say that the vast majority of the VEs that I've seen in the Chicago area did not have sunroofs. Most had autos and a few had spoilers. Mostly didn't see sunroofs and spoilers til you moved up to Touring model.
 
I'm just amazed that the same used cars sell for that much difference in price when the new ones don't. Maybe it's a regional mentality thing or something. Like I said, there 63 out of 84 used 2007s listed for sale in my area under $16000 and most right around $15000. And those are asking prices! Obviously, this a mixture of GTs, Touring and VEs. Not many of the base models were sold around here.
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'09 Mazda6 by heybroder
Aug 28, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Don't you all think the new 6s look awesome!? I'm seriously considering buying one sometime in Oct. 272 horse V6: yep yep
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Re: Used Car prices for mid-size I4 sedans [m6user] by moveover
Aug 28, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 7:34 pm)

I bet that all the 2007's list in that price range are ex rental VE's. Each time when I did see a car listed as a IGT it ended up being a VE. Like
http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?recnum=9&leadExists=true&isLeadEnabled=- - true&%3bsearchType=22&tracktype=usedcc&%3bsortorder=ascending&%3blargeNumResults- - PerPage=0&paId=285646742&rowCount=9&%3baff=national&recNumber=9&%3bsortfield=PRI- - CE+ascending%2cPRICE+descending&%3bnumResultsPerPage=50&%3bcertifiedOnly=false&%- - 3bpageNumber=0&%3bcriteria=K-2007%7cE-ANY%7cM-_30_%7cH-%7cD-_6988_%7cN-N%7cR-30%- - 7cI-1%2c7%7cP-PRICE+ascending%2cPRICE+descending%7cQ-ascending%7cX-popular%7cZ-2- - 0705&aff=national
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Re: Used Car prices for mid-size I4 sedans [moveover] by m6user
Aug 28, 2008 (7:57 pm)
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Replying to: moveover (Aug 28, 2008 7:48 pm)

I bet that all the 2007's list in that price range are ex rental VE's
 
No, as I looked threw them it was a smattering of all types and all kinds of miles. I know what you mean though, there was probably a good number ex-rentals but certainly not close to all.
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Worldwide standings. by m6user
Aug 28, 2008 (8:02 pm)
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Hyundai has surpassed Honda to take the world's 4th largest auto company rank. VW just passed Ford to become the 3rd largest. I think GM and Toyota are taking turns now at 1 & 2.
 
1. GM
2. Toyota
3. VW
4. Hyundai/Kia
5. Honda
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Re: Worldwide standings. [m6user] by tallman1
Aug 28, 2008 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 8:02 pm)

If "VW just passed Ford to become the 3rd largest," shouldn't Ford be listed as #4??
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Re: Worldwide standings. [m6user] by moveover
Aug 28, 2008 (8:20 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 8:02 pm)

1. GM
2. Toyota
3. VW
4. Hyundai/Kia
5. Honda

 
Doesn't look right, were is Ford ? and Nissan/Renault Peugeot/Citroen
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Re: Worldwide standings. [m6user] by graphicguy
Aug 29, 2008 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 8:02 pm)

Where did you get those rankings? Can you give unit numbers for the manufacturers? Just curious because that ranking doesn't look right.
 
My understanding is it's....
 
1. GM
2. Toyota
3. Honda
4. Ford
5. Nissan
 
I have no idea where Hyundai is ranked, but I don't think it was anywhere near the top 5.
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Re: Worldwide standings. [graphicguy] by moveover
Aug 29, 2008 (4:19 am)
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Replying to: graphicguy (Aug 29, 2008 4:08 am)

I think he combined Kia and Hyundai, but then you would need to combine Nissan/Renault, Ford/Mazda too.
You listed sales for US only, his one was worldwide which put VW in 3rd and Ford in 4th. Here are the numbers for 2007:
 
http://oica.net/wp-content/uploads/world-ranking-2007.pdf
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobile_manufacturers

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