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Re: $4000 rebates on Optima [mickeyrom]
by jeffyscott
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Aug 28, 2008 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 10:49 am)
It may be that edmunds is mistaken on the rebates it appears they were, perhaps, combining rebates that can not be combined...so might be $2000-3000 instead:
http://www.kia.com/incentives/apr_cashback_central.php
Note that I also assume that one could buy at invoice, since the car is no longer a new model.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user]
by mickeyrom
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Aug 28, 2008 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 11:16 am)
The $3K discount,or cash back,applies only to the 6 cyl Optima.The 2008 Optima I4 gets $2K back.Tried to find one with MSRP of #16K. Good luck...I tried.Hyundai has a bigger discount,but the MSRP is higher.
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Why so many Sonata reviews?
by m6user
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Aug 28, 2008 (11:30 am)
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If you look to the right you will see that the 2009 Sonata has 66 consumer reviews and the 2009 Camry has 54 reviews. I believe the 2009 Camry started selling a few weeks before the 09 Sonata.
My question is: Why is there more Sonata reviews when the Camry must have outsold the Sonata by huge numbers?
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user]
by jeffyscott
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Aug 28, 2008 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 11:16 am)
Hertz is like carmax, their web site says:
With our low fixed prices you have the advantage. You get all the value and savings without the aggravation of pushy salesmen and high-price negotiations.
http://www.hertzcarsales.com/advantages/advantage.jsp
I see $14-15K on their site, only lists cars in CA and HI, but still...
They probably figure people will be comparing them to the 2009 model, so selling them for probably about what they paid might just work. It is nuts, though...I've only got 13K on my 2007, maybe I can sell for more than the $16K that I paid  .
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Re: Why so many Sonata reviews? [m6user]
by backy
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Aug 28, 2008 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 11:30 am)
Maybe because fewer Camry shoppers/owners visit sites like Edmunds.com? Who needs to visit sites like this to do research etc. when the decision is a foregone conclusion? Just a thought...
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Re: Why so many Sonata reviews? [backy]
by m6user
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Aug 28, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 28, 2008 11:36 am)
You might be right. Although the Camry forums seem to be pretty active. Maybe they figure that what more is there to say about a Camry. Actually, I think Camrys are good cars and I refuse to slam them just because there's so many of them. IMHO they have slid some in quality in recent years(both material and build) but are still very competitive. I really believe some people just can't stand them because they have been #1 for so long. It's more fun rooting for the underdog.
Hey, maybe that's why the Sonata owners offer more reviews....they are sticking up for the underdog!
Any psychologists think that may be the answer?
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Re: Why so many Sonata reviews? [m6user]
by backy
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Aug 28, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 12:06 pm)
The Camry is a good car, definitely. But look to the right--there's LOTS of "good cars" there. That's not enough any more to stand out in this class. Reliability? Others have good records there too. I would have no problem putting my family into a Camry.... IF it were in the same price ballpark as solid options like the Fulan, Mazda6, Optima, and Sonata. I'm just not willing to pay extra for the Camry, especially since it is deficient in some areas e.g. handling, and interior/exterior design, compared to others in this class.
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Re: Why so many Sonata reviews? [backy]
by mickeyrom
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Aug 28, 2008 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 28, 2008 12:25 pm)
Hey Backy,fancy meeting you here.Where do you live,and what do you own?
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Re: Why so many Sonata reviews? [mickeyrom]
by backy
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Aug 28, 2008 (1:46 pm)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 1:08 pm)
Twin Cities. Elantra GT, Mazda 626, Mazda MPV. And soon one more... TBD.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user]
by moveover
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Aug 28, 2008 (1:58 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 11:16 am)
Just look at the Carmax site, they are selling a 2007 Mazda6 I Sport, (not VE) with 20k for $17.7 stock #: 5366031 Rebates might effect resale value, but those rebates might be gone next year. i.e. don't think the 2009 will have a rebate. Not every one is hanging out at these forums looking at prices paid  Even Mickeyrom admitted he might have paid too much for his Optima.
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