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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user] by mickeyrom
Aug 28, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 8:59 am)

.....Wrooooong!
I priced a 2008, and I have never seen a current model of any brand with a 4 cylinder engine discounted anywhere close to $5000.At any rate we are going way off subject,so ...have a nice day...peace...
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by akirby
Aug 28, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 9:08 am)

2008 Mazda6 4 cylinder currently has a $2750 factory rebate, so $5K total discount sounds pretty close.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by moveover
Aug 28, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 9:08 am)

.....Wrooooong!
I priced a 2008, and I have never seen a current model of any brand with a 4 cylinder engine discounted anywhere close to $5000.At any rate we are going way off subject,so ...have a nice day...peace...

 
I just bought a 2008 Mazda6 4 cylinder with a MSRP of $22.1K for $17K before taxes and DMV fees. so a 5.1K discount.
 
I also had the option to buy a fully loaded IGT for 20.5K which included leather, heated seats, sunroof, Bi-XEON's etc
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [akirby] by mickeyrom
Aug 28, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 28, 2008 9:30 am)

PS..I just researched this discount.It is only for the 4 door Mazda6 sport,not the touring,unless you get the 5 door hatchback.In other words I could not match what I have now without spending at least a couple mote thou.That is my only point.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by akirby
Aug 28, 2008 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 9:48 am)

To use your words.....Wrrooonnngggg!
 
The $2750 is for all Mazda6 sedans and hatchbacks. Where did it say otherwise?
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [akirby] by mickeyrom
Aug 28, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 28, 2008 10:01 am)

On the Lujack motors site.It's located in Davenport Ia....Look,I am not buying a Mazda or anything else.When I bought my car,that option did not exist,so can we drop the subject.God how I wish I had not strted this thread.I think I will just delete it.Have a nice day,
Allan Birmantas
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by jeffyscott
Aug 28, 2008 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 9:08 am)

we are going way off subject
 
 
 
Is comparing the pricing of midsize sedans is considered to be off-topic here in the midsize sedans comparison discussion?
 
Clearly you are surprised by what the actual selling price of the Mazda6 had been, as I had postulated . The point being that Kia and Hyundai are not the only lower priced options in the midsize segment. The Mazda6 and at times Ford Fusion (which had $4000 rebates not too long ago, IIRC) have presented similar values (to Sonata and Optima) in terms of selling prices.
 
The 2008 Mazda6i touring, with the optional moonroof added, has MSRP of $23760 and invoice is $21,926. You must be looking at a grand touring to get up to $25K in a 4 cyl. Based on edmunds model review the grand touring vs. the touring adds: xenon headlights, foglamps, a sunroof, electroluminescent gauges, automatic climate control and an auto-dimming rearview mirror.
 
These were usually selling at or below invoice in the Chicago and Milwaukee areas, so that would be around $21,900 for the touring and $23,000 for the grand touring. They have had rebates of $2500-3000 nearly continuously for at least 2-3 years...so that puts the final price at about $19,000-$19,500 for the touring and $20,000 to $20,500 for the grand touring for just about anyone who asked.
 
At auto show time (in 2007, not sure about 2008) Mazda even had an extra $1000 rebate in this area, that was available on top of the normal $3000ish rebates.
 
Not sure why you are so defensive/irritated, we are just sharing information. No one is saying "hey, you should have bought something else", we are just comparing mid-size sedan info...kind of the point here, I thought.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [jeffyscott] by backy
Aug 28, 2008 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 28, 2008 10:16 am)

I've tracked Mazda6 and Optima prices for some time and I can verify that it is indeed possible to get a discount of $5k or so on a 2008 Mazda6. At a little over $16k for a Mazda6i VE, it was a pretty compelling deal for me... EXCEPT no ESC on the 2008 Mazda6i (it's hard to find on the Optima, but possible). However, the Optima LX is available pretty nicely equipped e.g. 17" alloys, fogs, leather wheel etc. with ESC for around $15k or less, depending on the rebates (they are a little lower now than earlier in the year). With the ESC, better fuel economy, interior room, and warranty, plus the better price, I still have my eyes on the Optima but not on the 2008 Mazda6i.
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$4000 rebates on Optima by jeffyscott
Aug 28, 2008 (10:36 am)
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I was curious about Optima pricing, so I took a look at that and it turns out the Optima currently has a $3000 to $4000 rebate on the 2008 . That is a huge rebate for a car that is already cheap. Looks like the top of the line would now be available at perhaps around $18,000 and maybe $13,000 for the base.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [jeffyscott] by mickeyrom
Aug 28, 2008 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 28, 2008 10:16 am)

I started this thread only because there were no other threads about a Kia Optima.As far as the price,I was talking MSRP...mine was around 23K aand a comparable Mazda6 was around 25K.I consider 2K a LOT of money,maybe some don't.I got very little discount when I bought my KIA because at the time it was a brand new redisign.I had terrible timing.KIA does have one indisputable advantage.That is the warranty.(or has Mazda copied that too?) If Mazda is discounting their cars so much,does that devalue their used ones ?and those should have no more value than KIAs and Hyundais

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