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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by jeffyscott
Aug 28, 2008 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 27, 2008 5:38 pm)

I would bet that mazda 6 as well equipped as my Optima (leather, heated seats,moonroof,six disc changer,etc.etc.etc)would probably cost a lot more,and I think value has it's own quality.
 
You might be have been surprised, they were commonly available at about $5000 below MSRP in many areas, after all rebates and discounts. I paid $16K, but mine does not have leather or moonroof (because, I don't like leather or moonroofs) so can't really compare. Assuming I'd have gotten the same $5000 off on the leatherized Mazda6i touring with moon roof, it appears that it would have been about $18,700.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [jeffyscott] by mickeyrom
Aug 28, 2008 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 28, 2008 5:46 am)

I went to a Mazda site and built a 6 to make it comparable with mine.It came to just under 25 grand,which is almost 3K more than mine. Nobody in my area is discounting (any make) 4 cylinder sedans by 5K and Mazda is not discounting at all.
I live in Illinois near the Iowa border,and you will not find any of those ridiculous discounts unless you're looking at an expensive minivan or SUV,and only certain brands,like Hyundai or KIA.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by m6user
Aug 28, 2008 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 8:28 am)

I think the key word in Jeffy's response was "were" on the Mazda6 pricing. He is referring to the 2008/2007s before the new Mazda6 which is what you are pricing on the Mazda web. Don't know why you would compare a newly redesigned model that just came out with no discounting to your Optima pricing.
 
a 2008 Mazda6 equipped as he described was selling all over Chicagoland for $5k to $5.5k off sticker. Chicago area is not that far from where you live and I'm sure heavy discounting went out to Central IL just to stay competitive with the Chicago market. That is not far from where you live.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [m6user] by mickeyrom
Aug 28, 2008 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Aug 28, 2008 8:59 am)

.....Wrooooong!
I priced a 2008, and I have never seen a current model of any brand with a 4 cylinder engine discounted anywhere close to $5000.At any rate we are going way off subject,so ...have a nice day...peace...
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by akirby
Aug 28, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 9:08 am)

2008 Mazda6 4 cylinder currently has a $2750 factory rebate, so $5K total discount sounds pretty close.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by moveover
Aug 28, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 9:08 am)

.....Wrooooong!
I priced a 2008, and I have never seen a current model of any brand with a 4 cylinder engine discounted anywhere close to $5000.At any rate we are going way off subject,so ...have a nice day...peace...

 
I just bought a 2008 Mazda6 4 cylinder with a MSRP of $22.1K for $17K before taxes and DMV fees. so a 5.1K discount.
 
I also had the option to buy a fully loaded IGT for 20.5K which included leather, heated seats, sunroof, Bi-XEON's etc
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [akirby] by mickeyrom
Aug 28, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 28, 2008 9:30 am)

PS..I just researched this discount.It is only for the 4 door Mazda6 sport,not the touring,unless you get the 5 door hatchback.In other words I could not match what I have now without spending at least a couple mote thou.That is my only point.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by akirby
Aug 28, 2008 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 9:48 am)

To use your words.....Wrrooonnngggg!
 
The $2750 is for all Mazda6 sedans and hatchbacks. Where did it say otherwise?
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [akirby] by mickeyrom
Aug 28, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 28, 2008 10:01 am)

On the Lujack motors site.It's located in Davenport Ia....Look,I am not buying a Mazda or anything else.When I bought my car,that option did not exist,so can we drop the subject.God how I wish I had not strted this thread.I think I will just delete it.Have a nice day,
Allan Birmantas
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by jeffyscott
Aug 28, 2008 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 28, 2008 9:08 am)

we are going way off subject
 
 
 
Is comparing the pricing of midsize sedans is considered to be off-topic here in the midsize sedans comparison discussion?
 
Clearly you are surprised by what the actual selling price of the Mazda6 had been, as I had postulated . The point being that Kia and Hyundai are not the only lower priced options in the midsize segment. The Mazda6 and at times Ford Fusion (which had $4000 rebates not too long ago, IIRC) have presented similar values (to Sonata and Optima) in terms of selling prices.
 
The 2008 Mazda6i touring, with the optional moonroof added, has MSRP of $23760 and invoice is $21,926. You must be looking at a grand touring to get up to $25K in a 4 cyl. Based on edmunds model review the grand touring vs. the touring adds: xenon headlights, foglamps, a sunroof, electroluminescent gauges, automatic climate control and an auto-dimming rearview mirror.
 
These were usually selling at or below invoice in the Chicago and Milwaukee areas, so that would be around $21,900 for the touring and $23,000 for the grand touring. They have had rebates of $2500-3000 nearly continuously for at least 2-3 years...so that puts the final price at about $19,000-$19,500 for the touring and $20,000 to $20,500 for the grand touring for just about anyone who asked.
 
At auto show time (in 2007, not sure about 2008) Mazda even had an extra $1000 rebate in this area, that was available on top of the normal $3000ish rebates.
 
Not sure why you are so defensive/irritated, we are just sharing information. No one is saying "hey, you should have bought something else", we are just comparing mid-size sedan info...kind of the point here, I thought.

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