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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [jeffyscott]
by mickeyrom
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Aug 26, 2008 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 23, 2008 8:21 am)
If you think the Optima has a soft ride,you must drive a Vette. It is anything but.I actually wish it was a little softer.
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- #10622 of 13325
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [pat]
by mickeyrom
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Aug 26, 2008 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Aug 25, 2008 6:28 am)
I read the posts every time I am notified of a reply to the subject .I get some e mail notification,but only intermitently. 
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- #10623 of 13325
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [micro99]
by mickeyrom
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Aug 26, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: micro99 (Aug 23, 2008 11:10 am)
Thanks...it really is amazing how much distain,almost hatred the humble Optima can attract.I think it's funny.I had no idea,it's like a Sox poster on the Cub forum.I stand by my comments,and I did not like this car as well as I do now after the first 900 miles,but once you get familiar with the Optima, and see it's good qualities,I think it is as good as almost any car in it's class. 
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- #10624 of 13325
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
by m6user
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Aug 26, 2008 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 26, 2008 6:14 pm)
A couple of people didn't care for the Optima and all of a sudden there is overall disdain....even hatred???? That's quite a chip to be carrying on one's shoulder.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
by pat HOST
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Aug 27, 2008 (4:22 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 26, 2008 6:08 pm)
The email notifications are by individual discussions, not by a message subject within a discussion. As I said, you will only get an email notification for the first unread message posted in the discussion where you requested email notifications. After you have logged in and read that message, you will get an email notification for the next new message.
Let's say a new message is posted after you have read all the messages in the discussion. You will get an email notification for that message. But let's say you do not log in and read that message right away and then ten more new messages are posted before you get there. You will not receive notifications for each of those since you've not yet read the first one about which you were notified. So when you get to the discussion, you will have had one email notification about the first of the eleven new messages waiting for you. (And again, this is regardless of subject line, it applies to all new messages in the discussion.)
Is that clearer? The bottom line is that it may appear to be intermittent, but there is a method and a reason for it, honest! Understanding how it works is the best way to make it work for you instead of just confusing you.
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- #10626 of 13325
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
by backy
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Aug 27, 2008 (4:25 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 26, 2008 6:14 pm)
Looking at it from an outsider's viewpoint, MT recently reviewed 10 cars in this class and ranked the Optima 6th overall. A decent showing for a car that is (incredibly) one of the oldest designs in the class now. It was topped by the Passat (which costs a LOT more and has a lot more power), the 2009 Sonata SE (which benefits from mid-gen improvements, many of which the Optima receives for 2009), the Accord, and two others that I don't specifically recall offhand but maybe they were the Camry and Fusion SEL. So is Optima best-in-class? Likely not. But is it a capable, pleasant, quality mid-sized sedan available at a bargain price? Definitely. For those (like me) who have no need to drive a car that others consider best-in-class if it meets my needs, the Optima is a fine choice.
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
by jeffyscott
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Aug 27, 2008 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 26, 2008 5:59 pm)
Well, CR also called the ride "supple". To me that means soft and would agree with my own impression.
The car does not happen appeal to me for a number of reasons that I stated on here a couple times. It does appeal to others, such as yourself. Not sure why you see that a problem. There would not be much to discuss here, if there were no differences of opinion.
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- #10628 of 13325
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [oldcem]
by mickeyrom
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Aug 27, 2008 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: oldcem (Aug 25, 2008 8:02 pm)
I did not know that the Jags had 4 wheel drive.He has a 2003 S model,maybe it's different. I'm sure it's a better car than my $22K Optima,but then it should be when you consider the price and the "snob" value. It obviously one of it's selling point.
BTW he bought it used,so I don't know what it cost him,but I believe the S is in the 60K range when new.Am I mistaken?
BTW again,my stepson has the big Jag,and honestly I love it,but it did not feel very "sporty" to me.
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- #10629 of 13325
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom]
by akirby
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Aug 27, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 27, 2008 10:44 am)
Only the Jag X-type had AWD, not the S-type.
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- #10630 of 13325
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Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [jeffyscott]
by mickeyrom
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Aug 27, 2008 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 27, 2008 10:01 am)
There is no problem,just surprised on how harsh your criticism was.Maybe you didn't mean it that way.Am I being paranoid?
You did not mention what you drove,so it would be nice to what it came out second best.Quoting reviews from test drives falls short of driving it for almost two years and 20K miles.
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