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#10613 of 18220 Re: backy, don't they offer an '08 Optima [iluvmysephia1] by backy

Aug 23, 2008 (2:59 pm)

Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Aug 23, 2008 1:52 pm)
On the '08 Optima, ABS and ESC are always optional and come together in a package. And you can't just get a base LX or EX with that package--you have to get other stuff too, e.g. the $1000 Appearance Package on the LX I4. It's ridiculous to me that in 2008 an important safety feature like ABS is optional on a mid-sized family sedan. And that ESC is so hard to get. In all the checks I've done of inventories around my region, I only once found a few LXes with ABS/ESC and that was 500 miles away. A few days later, those were gone. So buyers obviously want those safety features. Why Kia doesn't ship more Optimas here with ABS/ESC is hard to fathom.

#10615 of 18220 Re: reliability rating [aviboy97] by thegraduate

Aug 23, 2008 (10:11 pm)

Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 23, 2008 9:32 am)
I was who brought up the Camry; it gets the same mileage as the '07 Jetta 2.5, yet has 118 more horsepower.
 
And, so what if I'm special?

#10616 of 18220 Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [micro99] by jeffyscott

Aug 24, 2008 (7:49 pm)

Replying to: micro99 (Aug 23, 2008 12:10 pm)
Not that I have "professed" to be anything, but it is possible to form an opinion on a car after driving it 950 miles in a week, despite not being the owner of the car.
 
CR mag also made the following comments about the Optima: Although it has a supple ride and secure handling, the Optima isn’t particularly agile and The Optima’s handling is competent but not sporty...the steering is responsive and reasonably weighted but short on feedback.

#10617 of 18220 Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [micro99] by mickeyrom

Aug 25, 2008 (6:29 am)

Replying to: micro99 (Aug 23, 2008 12:10 pm)
Odd that I got no notification of your post,but did of the last one.There seems to be a common problem with this site.....ANYWAY....I started this thread because nobody else seemes to. As far as sporty handling..well,this car was not designed for Le Mans, but for driving in town or the interstate highways. I have ridden many miles in my friends Jag, about the same size car,and find the Optima's ride superior although there is a bit more lean on curves. Of course my car cost about a third of the price of the Jag.It also has all the conveniences and gets them as standard equipment.It lacks only the wood trim and the big price and of course the snob value.I have over 20K miles now on my Optima EX so It is pretty well broken in.I have NEVER owned a car that was as trouble free during the first 20,000 miles.
New cars that I have owned are 1967 Plymouth Belvedere,1968 Plymouth Beledere,1969 Chevy Towmsman,1970Ford LTD,1971 Chrysler,1973 Plymouth Sebring,1980 Toyota,1986 VW Jetta,1994 Plymouth Voyager and last the 1997 Chrysler Town & Country LXi,which was my "dream" car and I still own.None of these came close to the quality level of trim, or reliability of the KIA I own now.Of course,only time will tell if it will last as well as my MOPARS which were the best of the ones I owned in the past.The only two that I owned which I kept for over 140K miles were the 1994 Voyager and my Town and Country.So far, I give the KIA a solid 10 rating,and I never could have given that good a grade before.

#10618 of 18220 Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by pat

Aug 25, 2008 (7:28 am)

Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 25, 2008 6:29 am)
I got no notification of your post
 
I assume you are talking about an email? If you are signed up for email notifications for any one discussion, you get one email when the first new message is posted since you last read the topic. You won't get another one until you've read the topic again, no matter how many posts are made. (And of course you have to read the topic logged in so that the system knows you've read it.)
 
Does that make sense?

#10619 of 18220 Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [mickeyrom] by oldcem

Aug 25, 2008 (9:02 pm)

Replying to: mickeyrom (Aug 25, 2008 6:29 am)
I currently own one of the Jags you speak of and have driven Kia Optima rentals as well. You neglected to mention that the Jag is all-wheel drive, and, is far more capable in foul weather than the Kia is. Don't know what your friend paid for his Jag, but, mine in 06 cost me about the same as a comparably equipped Honda Accord, even with my 100K extended factory warranty. Enjoy your Kia, but, drive your friend's Jag in a snowstorm/ heavy rain sometime.
 
Regards:
OldCEM

#10620 of 18220 Re: reliability rating [bobgwtw] by plekto

Aug 26, 2008 (6:41 pm)

Replying to: bobgwtw (Aug 22, 2008 8:34 pm)

I take issue with your conclusions abour reliability ratings. To start with, if you look at the consumers report ratings, they report problems by model year; and very few 1 or 2, year old cars are used. The J. D. powers IQ survey rates new cars during the 1st 90 DAYS OF OWNERSHIP. So, yeah, the surverys tend to be a pretty darn indicator of reliability.
 
I wasn't talking about JD powers but how people in general view a maker's reliability. There's more than a few people for instance that insist that a BMW is best leased since there are a plethora of ills that they suffer at 8-12 years. While they may do okay during the first few years, this "beware of a used one" reputation that they have with the general public really affects their overall image.
 
VW is hardly any different. For some reason the things just don't wear very well as they age.

#10621 of 18220 Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [jeffyscott] by mickeyrom

Aug 26, 2008 (6:59 pm)

Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 23, 2008 9:21 am)
If you think the Optima has a soft ride,you must drive a Vette. It is anything but.I actually wish it was a little softer.

#10622 of 18220 Re: Some compliments to the KIA Optima [pat] by mickeyrom

Aug 26, 2008 (7:08 pm)

Replying to: pat (Aug 25, 2008 7:28 am)
I read the posts every time I am notified of a reply to the subject .I get some e mail notification,but only intermitently.

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