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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Mazda6 revs [captain2] by aviboy97
Aug 14, 2008 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 14, 2008 10:14 am)

Right now, Mazda only sells 250-300K units TOTAL as a company. They do no have the capacity to sell 300K of one car. The Mazda3 sells about 100K units a year, and Mazda just cannot make any more, and yet the Mazda3 is considered a class leader by many and has been a corner stone in the newer Mazda vehicles. Remember when no one though it was possible to build a better car then the Corolla or Civic? Yet, many think the Mazda3 is far superior and sells far less then 1/2 the volume.
 
If the Mazda6 sold on that level, and achieved the praise that the Mazda3 has gotten, then the Mazda6 is a smash hit. In my opinion, the Mazda6 is way better then the Camry and Accord. I have not driven the Altima.
 
The Mazda6 does not need to sell 300K to be competitive.
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Re: Mazda6 revs [thegraduate] by baggs32
Aug 14, 2008 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 14, 2008 12:20 pm)

When Ford puts the 2.5L in the Fusion, and maybe upgrades the interior, it'll be on my short list.
 
Soon grad, soon. The barely camoed 2010 Fusion in the pics below appears to be equipped with the 2.5L I4. A hybrid most likely will have the single exhaust too, but I doubt it will have those big ol' wheels.
 
2010 Ford Fusion Pics
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Re: Mazda6 revs [baggs32] by igozoomzoom
Aug 14, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Aug 14, 2008 4:42 pm)

I was expecting the 2.5L in the 2009 Fusion, but it isn't coming until the 'freshened' 2010 model. Thankfully, the 2010 model is slated to arrived in January 2009, so the wait isn't another full year.
 
I just have two items on my wish list for the 2010 model (and I will most likely be ordering an SE to my exact specifications)-
 
1) I hope the Sport Appearance Package (SAP) will be an option on the 2010 model. The wheels and interior accents make the Fusion even more unique and sporty while still looking very tasteful.
 
2) A 'manu-matic' type shifter or any improvement over the current automatic shifter with only 'D' and 'L' positions available.

 
A heated CLOTH seats option would be awesome, too....but I'm not holding my breath on that one...
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Re: Mazda6 revs [aviboy97] by jeffyscott
Aug 15, 2008 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2008 7:56 am)

Mazda has targeted the 40-55 yr old crowd with the new 6. A lot of current owners are not too happy about this. I on the other hand happen to really like it, even though I'm 28.
 
Meanwhile, I'm right there in the middle of your purported target age range and am inclined to dislike the new Mazda6...or at least to prefer the old one (only based on what it looks like in photos and what I have read).
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Re: Mazda6 revs [igozoomzoom] by autoboy16
Aug 15, 2008 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Aug 14, 2008 6:26 pm)

Hey you can test drive the 09 Mazda6i. It has the 2.5l I4. You can get a feel for how the 2.5 will drive.
 
Vw has some great heated cloth seats in the 5dr Rabbit...
 
While on the VW subject, we may as well stop talking about the passat 3.6 as vw as dropped it. It was a great engine and I'll miss it!! Thankfull, the 2.0T is still strong and fast!
 
ps: This post has come a looong way since my post #20!
 
-Cj
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2010 Fusion Spy Shots by akirby
Aug 15, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Too large to embed. We'll see it officially at the L.A. Auto Show this fall. Milan pics are also available.
 
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2010-ford-fusion-spy-shots/976654/
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Re: Mazda6 revs [igozoomzoom] by baggs32
Aug 15, 2008 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Aug 14, 2008 6:26 pm)

I hope the Sport Appearance Package (SAP) will be an option on the 2010 model. The wheels and interior accents make the Fusion even more unique and sporty while still looking very tasteful.
 
Agreed. But looking at those spy shots I and akirby later posted you can see that the 2010 Fusion has some pretty big wheels there. They look like 18 or 19 inch so I would expect some kind of sport appearance package to be available then too.
 
A 'manu-matic' type shifter or any improvement over the current automatic shifter with only 'D' and 'L' positions available.
 
Don't hold your breath on that either. I'd be more pleased with a full manual tranny with the V6 personally.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Spy Shots [akirby] by urnews
Aug 15, 2008 (11:50 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 15, 2008 5:45 am)

Hideous paint aside, the 2010 Fusion is ugly, especially the taillights. I don't like the looks of it at all. the 2006-09 models look better to me. Just one person's opinion, of course. Boz
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Re: 2010 Fusion Spy Shots [urnews] by akirby
Aug 15, 2008 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: urnews (Aug 15, 2008 11:50 am)

That's not paint, it's a camouflage decal. That's also not the real headlights or taillights - those are camo stickers.
 
I like it a lot - I think it's a big improvement.
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Re: 2010 Fusion Spy Shots [akirby] by baggs32
Aug 15, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 15, 2008 12:12 pm)

I agree 100%. After seeing the shots of the 2010 Milan and the MKZ too, I think the Fusion is easily the best looking of the 3.
 
The spy shots of the interior from a while back show a nice improvement too. No more radio "brick"! Hopefully the backlights are the new Ford Ice Blue instead of the old swamp green too.

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