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13285 messages, Last post on Nov 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 14, 2008 7:04 am) Many reports have shown Ford making a drastic improvement in dependability. Even CR recommends all of their sedans now. For has also taken a huge step in the interior quality of their vehicles. I drove a Flex today at my Ford store, and while I did not care for the vehicle its self (style or ride), the build quality and materials used were very very good. I think Ford is really about to take off once their Euro designs go on sale here in the U.S.. They wont be in dire straights for too much longer.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2008 7:14 am) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 14, 2008 7:04 am) this - I find interesting given your age - so young to be so practical! The VW (assume we're talking the Passat here,) while certainly more expensive does offer a much better driving dynamic as well as 'better' engine choices than any Ford. The 3.6 V6 is an engine that rivals the Toyota and Nissan V6s in many respects while the only car in this group that could even pretend to 'feel' like a Passat is probably the Mazda6- another car that is geared toward the younger buyer. Not that many years ago VW had a rep for making reliable cars - how things can change.
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 14, 2008 7:47 am) As in regards to the Mazda6 as being a young persons cars, Mazda has changed the target audience. Mazda has targeted the 40-55 yr old crowd with the new 6. A lot of current owners are not too happy about this. I on the other hand happen to really like it, even though I'm 28. I really think it's a much superior product then the 1st gen, and I also think it handles just as well. I'm still getting used to the overall size. It is much much bigger. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2008 7:56 am) going to be very tough sell - this is where the big boys play |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2008 7:56 am) To each their own. I prepared for the future by getting a sensible, midsize sedan. Thank goodness I didn't buy a Mustang. 
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 14, 2008 8:26 am) Now, the kicker is marketing and repeat Mazda6 gen-1 buyers. Look for the first advertisements in early September. Accord to Mazda, they have spent $$$$$ on the ad campaign. If they sell the target numbers of 100K, the car is a total success, and Mazda did it's job.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2008 9:02 am) |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2008 9:02 am) and on a spec sheet etc. it may be - but market perception and acceptance are something else entirely. 100k units isn't 300k,400k, or 500k .The Camcordimas sell a million+ copies a year, Mazda volume has never been anything more than a blip on the radar. Not that it can't be done, the Altima wasn't viewed as a viable Camcord alternate until the 02 redesign. However, it would seem more likely that the new Malibu or even the continually evolving Sonata would have the best chances at this kind of 'significance' - well before the Fusion and/or the 6.
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 14, 2008 7:47 am) I'm a VERY practical person (almost to a fault). The Passat, to me, is overpriced for what you get, as others have mentioned. VW priced themselves out of my shopping list. Maintenance cost and having notably poor customer service are the nails in the coffin. As far as engines go, I have the sweet 2.4L from the Accord's lighter days (2006 model) and love its flexibility. I have also had lots of behind the wheel time in a Taurus SEL FWD with the new 3.5L in it; and engine which I think is underrated (not techincally) by a lot of people. It doesn't stand out against the other 3.5-ish liter engines here, but it is certainly competitive in every way as far as I'm concerned. When Ford puts the 2.5L in the Fusion, and maybe upgrades the interior, it'll be on my short list. For the record, I keep a list of cars I'd consider if I were shopping today. I have no plans in the next few years to go car shopping, though, so all the models out right now will probably be drastically different when it is my turn to buy!
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