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13294 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:19 PM
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 13, 2008 1:08 pm) I own a 2005 Mazda5 4 cyl mtx and I spin 3,200 rpm's going 70 mph in 5th |
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 13, 2008 1:19 pm) Ford is going with dual clutch Powershift in their new small cars claiming 10% better economy over a 6 speed auto. Other than Nissan - who is committing to CVTs?
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 14, 2008 4:51 am) Maybe Mitsubishi??? Not that they are of much significance in the US. When is Ford planning to go to the DSG style automatics in the US? The interweb tells me it is already availble on European Fords. |
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 14, 2008 4:51 am) Nissan certainly with the biggest - using the tranny essentially line wide - Toyota and Honda using them in their economy champions like the Prius/Civic. It's not like the CVT is new by any means, but something that has been improved/perfected primarily by Nissan. Would not expect a financially and developmentally strapped Co. like Ford to pioneer or even lead the way in the development of any new technologies. I think you'll find that Ford could not use the Volvo sourced chain driven CVT in the Taurus because it couldn't handle the HP increase that came with the bigger DT and was further problematical from a reliability perspective - something that hasn't been a problem in the Nissans since the Murano of several years back. Pooh, pooh the CVT if you will - it does present the driver with a different kind of driving experience - but it is a solid choice in all our FE challenged futures given that there are significantly less mechanical losses vs. the traditonal auto.. If Ford is going to claim the efficiencies of an automatically shifted manual tranny - would suggest they look to VW as well as the Italians for advice in how to do it.....
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 14, 2008 5:44 am) Yes, because we know VW builds high-quality and long-lasting pieces of equipment!  
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 14, 2008 6:16 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Aug 14, 2008 6:53 am) I'm a worrier, and no matter how much more fun the VW would be, the Ford wouldn't make me nervous on a long trip. After seeing two different friends of the family with VWs (2001, 2004) and how they both have POOR reliability, I wouldn't touch one for many years; not with my checkbook, anyway.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 14, 2008 7:04 am) Many reports have shown Ford making a drastic improvement in dependability. Even CR recommends all of their sedans now. For has also taken a huge step in the interior quality of their vehicles. I drove a Flex today at my Ford store, and while I did not care for the vehicle its self (style or ride), the build quality and materials used were very very good. I think Ford is really about to take off once their Euro designs go on sale here in the U.S.. They wont be in dire straights for too much longer.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 14, 2008 7:14 am) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 14, 2008 7:04 am) this - I find interesting given your age - so young to be so practical! The VW (assume we're talking the Passat here,) while certainly more expensive does offer a much better driving dynamic as well as 'better' engine choices than any Ford. The 3.6 V6 is an engine that rivals the Toyota and Nissan V6s in many respects while the only car in this group that could even pretend to 'feel' like a Passat is probably the Mazda6- another car that is geared toward the younger buyer. Not that many years ago VW had a rep for making reliable cars - how things can change.
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