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13332 messages, Last post on Dec 04, 2009 at 2:47 PM
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Replying to: akirby (Aug 11, 2008 7:58 am)  EDIT: Found it. The EPA numbers uncorrected for my 2006 Accord 2.4L 5AT are City: 27.0145 Hwy: 43.4831 See them yourself at the link I provide below. Click the year of vehicle you wish to see. You'll have to unzip a datafile into Excel to do it (really easy). Then just find your vehicle in the file. They are sorted by EPA class (2-seater, Subcompact, Compact, etc). Link to FuelEconomy.gov Raw Numbers
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 11, 2008 8:08 am) Why does it do so well? 3100lbs. Less weight and bloat, pure and simple. (It appears to have gained 100lbs though, since 2005/2006... odd...) The V6 with automatic gets closer to 25mpg, just like the Honda/Toyota/GM/Ford/etc midsize sedans. The smart money is on the 4 though as it has 175HP(!) and is plenty easy to go quickly in given the fact that it weighs 500-800lbs less than the competition. Oh, and no premium fuel either.
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Replying to: plekto (Aug 11, 2008 11:34 am) 3000lbs. Less weight and bloat, pure and simple. The V6 with automatic gets closer to 25mpg, just like the Honda/Toyota/GM/Ford/etc midsize sedans. The smart money is on the 4 though as it has 175HP(!) and is plenty easy to go quickly in given the fact that it weighs 500-800lbs less than the competition. A base Altima 6MT weighs 3,112 according to Nissan's own website. Put a CVT in it and you are a shade under 3,200 lbs (3,189). Altima 6MT Base: 3112 Camry 5MT Base: 3263 Accord 5MT LX: 3230 All weights are from the manufacturer's respective website, and reflect the least expensive model (and therefore equipped with the fewest options to add weight) that is currently available. We're not talking a large difference in weight here; the difference in a small passenger. 800 lbs lighter? No way. A little research goes a long way.  Where'd you get 500-800 lbs difference?
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Aug 10, 2008 7:45 pm) Because I hit 425+ miles per tank with mostly city. Highway would definitely go over 500 without a sweat. My highway is over 30mpg for sure, which multiplied by a 17.7g tank would be over 500. Heck, I think I could probably pull off 550+ with highway only. Most midsize cars are around 3100-3500, depending on features. I think the weight difference might only count for 1-2mpg, still matters, but not a huge differentiator.
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Replying to: moocow1 (Aug 11, 2008 11:49 am) |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 11, 2008 7:47 am) I used to not be too sure about your mpg numbers, but my Mazda6i is now broken in and getting 27-28 mpg in my suburban Milwaukee commute (which is similar to Birmingham). Given the relative EPA rankings, I'd expect it to be 2-3 mpg less than an Accord and it is. I have not had an opportunity to check it on a freeway cruise, but when it was new it was getting about 32. My commuting mpg has gone up by 2-3 mpg since then...so I would not be surprised to see 34 mpg now.
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 11, 2008 11:52 am) I certainly understand people being skeptical of my numbers. My own dad was the first time I got 36 MPG on a trip in the Accord. Ever since, my highway mileage has leveled off to around 37-38 MPG on trips, depending on the passengers/cargo I've got (adding a person means I stop at more rest areas, as well as have more weight to pull up the hills). The 40 MPG tanks are outliers on these trips, but so are the tanks that I only get 35 MPG. Out of curiousity, how many MPH do you get per 1000 RPM? My 4-cyl Accord (5-speed Auto) runs at 30 MPH per 1000, meaning my typical crusing speed of 72 MPH puts me at only 2,400 RPM. Most Mazda's I've ever been in rev consistenly higher in top-gear than their competitors. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 11, 2008 12:00 pm) |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 11, 2008 12:04 pm) Is that a manual trans?
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Aug 11, 2008 12:04 pm) Not much different with the 6 V6 and manual. 3,300 rpm at 75 MPH. The automatic is slightly lower, but not by much. I've always found Mazdas to rev higher at highway speeds, but the trade-off for me is that I usually don't have to downshift out of top gear to pass on the highway. It can't be affecting gas mileage too badly, since I get 28-29 MPG on highway trips, and can break 30 if I really tried. I've heard the '09 6 with the V6 keeps the revs below 2500 RPM at 65 MPH, and I hope to confirm this for myself soon... 
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