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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: for those looking [lightfootfl] by jeffyscott
Aug 10, 2008 (4:15 am)
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Replying to: lightfootfl (Aug 09, 2008 7:32 am)

There are also people...who are able to tell...if the oil is low, just by driving the vehicle...
 
Do you mean you can tell if it is just a quart low or only if there is about one quart left?
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Re: for those looking [jeffyscott] by lightfootfl
Aug 10, 2008 (4:36 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 10, 2008 4:15 am)

Maybe not if it is a quart low, but definitely before there is only 1 quart left. What I said was "low" without specifying the amount.
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Re: for those looking [jeffyscott] by kdshapiro
Aug 10, 2008 (6:29 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 10, 2008 4:15 am)

I can tell when my car is down a quart. I sounds differently.
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A week with a Kia Optima by jeffyscott
Aug 10, 2008 (7:35 am)
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Had a Kia Optima rental car for a week in WY, MT, ID. The car had 4500 miles on it when we rented it. We did not like it at all and next time I am renting, if they say "it's a Kia Optima", I'll be asking if there are any other options.
 
The seat cushion was a bit too short to be really comfortable for me, but this is the case with a lot of cars such as: Camry, Sebring, and Malibu (at least the previous version).
 
I am about 5/10' or 11" and had the seat all the way back, which has never been the case in any other vehicle. I also jacked the seat up to it's highest positon to maximize leg room. I would still have even liked the seat to go back a bit farther, but even if it did the steering wheel would have then been too far away. I do tend to like the steering wheel to telescope out a long way and only a few cars have enough telescoping to really suit me.
 
The plastic on the top of the dash was so shiny that I had glare from the sun reflecting off of it. In addition, the image of the shiny dash would reflect on the windshield making it difficult to see. However, I am not sure if the horrible shiny dash was a feature of the car or was due to an oily build-up of cleaning products.
 
I did not care for the vague steering or cornering ability, I guess it is tuned to appeal to the would-be Camry buyer rather than those like me who prefer cars like the Mazda6. It was a smooth quiet ride and it did track very straight on the roads, I could take both hands off the wheel for an extended period of time and it went straight ahead (this does not happen with my Mazda6).
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Re: A week with a Kia Optima [jeffyscott] by tenpin288
Aug 10, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 10, 2008 7:35 am)

What model year Optima did you have?
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Re: A week with a Kia Optima [jeffyscott] by backy
Aug 10, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Aug 10, 2008 7:35 am)

Interesting, your experience with the Optima is a 180 from my test drive of an LX I4 with the 5AT. I am 5'10" also (32" inseam) and I had plenty of legroom with the seat height (manual) about 1/2 way. The front seat wasn't even close to being at the back of its rearward travel. But I don't think I had the steering column pulled out all the way. I found the driver's seat to be very comfortable, with good thigh and back support. But you drove it for longer than I did. There was no glare problem, on a sunny day. The dash was low-gloss plastic so I'm not sure why the dash in your car was glossy. And I thought the steering and cornering were quite good, sharper than Camry or Sonata (I drove a 2009 Sonata shortly after the Optima, on the same course) but less crisp than a Mazda6. The car I drove had the standard 16" wheels. What was on your rental? 17" are pretty common with the LX (any car with ABS/ESC has those) and on the EX also. Was your car a V6 or I4, and which trim?
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Re: for those looking [tedebear] by elkein
Aug 10, 2008 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: tedebear (Aug 06, 2008 3:54 pm)

I have the Fusion with a driver info center. The manual explains that the milage shown is based on the last 500 miles driven(less than two tanks.) It is not a long term nor an instant reading. It can be reset at any time for an effectively instant reading, or by the tank. I have verfied my computer, and am personally satisfied with it's accuracy.
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Re: for those looking [elkein] by thegraduate
Aug 10, 2008 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: elkein (Aug 10, 2008 10:45 am)

The Distance to Empty is based on the last 500 miles driven. The MPG readout is calculated from when you reset it last. If you never ever reset it, it'd be a lifetime average, etc...
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Re: A week with a Kia Optima [backy] by jeffyscott
Aug 10, 2008 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 10, 2008 9:05 am)

It was the I4 LX with 5 speed auto and, I believe, 16 inch wheels. My legs may be a bit longer, 34 inch inseam. Other than not going back quite far enough and wanting a longer seat cushion, the seat was comfortable (if that makes sense)...so for anyone for which those were not issues, it would likely be fine. I do see they list front leg room at 43.7 inches which is 1.4 inches more than my mazda6, that sure does not match what was actually available in the car I drove .
 
Since it was not that way on the one you drove, perhaps the shiny dash was just from cleaning products used by the rental car company.
 
In answer to the other question about the model year, I had meant to check that but did not. Given that it had 4500 miles I assume it was a 2008.
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Re: for those looking [thegraduate] by bhmr59
Aug 10, 2008 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 10, 2008 1:22 pm)

If the distance to empty is based on the last 500 miles that's pretty flippin stupid.
 
None of these cars get 500 miles per tank. If one drove 400 miles on a highway trip and had top fill up,and then 80 miles stuck in a traffic jam, what good would a miles to empty reading based on the last 500 miles do?

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