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Replying to: moparbad (Jul 18, 2008 6:24 am)  . The V6 is a US only engine, which may have something to do with the apparent inefficiency, if it was designed with cheap gas in mind.
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 18, 2008 8:27 am) At least the 2.5L is a huge improvement over previous 2.3L in terms of performance and NVH issues. All reports so far have said the 2.5L feels more than up to the task. The most impressive feature of the new engine is the increase of 24hp and 28lb-ft of torque AND highway mileage improved by 2mpg. The V6 succeeds in matching or beating the other guys in terms of power- compared to the old 3.0L, it gains 60hp and 72lb-ft of torque and fuel economy remains at 17/25. It would be very wise of Mazda to find a way to improve the V6 fuel economy ASAP! The Ford Taurus, which weighs 100 pounds more and uses the 3.5L V6 that the Mazda's 3.7L is based on, manages figures of 18/28. The gains are primarily due to different gearing in the 6-speed automatic. Similar changes to the Mazda6 would hurt performance a little, but the mpg gains would be worth the trade-off. |
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jul 20, 2008 12:06 am)
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I want to hear what the new Mazda 3.7L engine sounds like. Go listen to the sound clips of the Ford Taurus's 3.5L on youtube. I thought that the 2.5L engine in the newer Altima sounds better, let alone all the Japanese 3.5L engines. The V6's from Japanese automakers sound like supercars compared to Ford's 3.5. That being said, I'm sure the 3.7L has more of a sport tuned engine, so surely it has a much throatier engine and exhaust note... Lets hope so.
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Replying to: madpistol (Jul 20, 2008 4:31 pm)  1:30 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF-DMsQjQ5w IMO, it sounds 10x better than the 3.5L Ford engine. 
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For the month of June, as a brand, Honda was up 14%. GM was down 8%, Ford down 19%, Chrysler down 28%, Toyota down 12%, and Nissan down 7%. As models, here is how the top ten stack up: 1 Honda Accord 39,697 2 Honda Civic 37,257 3 Toyota Corolla 36,205 4 Toyota Camry 35,939 5 Ford F-150 24,988 6 Chevrolet Silverado (1500) 24,799 7 Nissan Altima 23,208 8 Chevrolet Cobalt 20,888 9 Ford Focus 17,950 10 Hyundai Sonata 16,875
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 20, 2008 5:54 am) I have read about a possible Fusion GT (or SVT, SVO, or....) with a 300+ hp turbocharged engine, but it will be interesting to see if it comes to fruition in the current economic climate. I don't even want to imagine what the EPA ratings would be on such a beast! I've also wondered if Ford has utilized the turbocharging experts that are, corporately speaking, already under the Ford umbrella- Volvo. They could take a car that weighed as much as a tank, had an old 2-valve 4-cylinder under the hood and the aerodynamics of the Hoover Dam and, with the addition of a turbocharger and a few other tweaks, they suddenly had a station wagon that seemed more fit for the Autobahn than car pool duty. Sadly, they probably didn't even think to ask for Volvo's help....
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jul 21, 2008 7:51 am) It's not that... they just can't afford the long-distance call to Sweden. 
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jul 21, 2008 7:51 am) There are supposed to be 2.0L and 2.5L EcoBoost engines to replace/augment the V6 engines but they were scheduled later than the 3.5L. My guess is they're trying to pull those ahead and maybe working on a 1.6L EcoBoost also. Unfortunately Ford doesn't have a lot of resources left so they're having to pick and choose what to work on first. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 21, 2008 6:51 am) I wonder if the number of Civics sold was limited by physical inventory available? They sold over 53,000 of them in May and exceeded everyone's (even their own) expectations and/or projections. So it stands to reason that dealer inventory can't possibly recover overnight (or in a week or two, even).
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