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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 16, 2008 12:58 pm) The Acura TL's, the Fulans, the Sonatas, all have several people in the "Real World MPG" threads mentioning 30+ mpg freeway mileage. Not up to 4 cyl mileage, but not bad compared to what a lot of folks are trading out of these days......... |
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The only car I have really seen beat EPA estimates no matter who is driving is my friend's VW GLI. We have taken it cross country twice. 3 people and a full load of camping gear each time. I like driving 80 on highways no matter the limit and I was averaging about 32 per gallon. He drives right at 70 no matter the limit and was getting 34. Our friends on each trip had similar numbers. We actually did even beter inside the national parks we were going to. Those road tend to fall between 35-45 but with very few stops we were getting over 40 mpg. The epa estimate doees not appear to hold for the vw 2.0 turbos. Also... I don't really see how the 2.5 on the 6 can be called class leading. There is more power in the Accord by a good bit and more torque in the Altima with all the power at much lower RPM. I have just test driven both of those cars and the engine power is on par with my 2003 mazda6 with V6. Clearly the CVT on the Altima helps it. I have no idea where the power comes from on the Acord but it was nice. |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 16, 2008 1:42 pm) I would be included in that group.  I went from 14mpg on premium (Trailblazer SS) to 26mpg on regular in my '09 V6 Sonata. I test drove several 4 cyl's (Accord, Camry, etc...) and just couldn't get used to the lack of power. I couldn't be happier with my decision. I cut my fuel bill in half and still have some passing power when needed. 
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Replying to: 2002slt (Jul 16, 2008 3:12 pm) 
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Jul 16, 2008 7:38 am) When Mazda redesigned the 6 they improved fuel economy, made it 200 plus pounds lighter than the previous model, and made it slightly larger. At least this is what happened with the Japanese and Euro Mazda6/Atenza, for the North American version of the Mazda6 is actually heavier and no significant improvements in fuel efficiency. IMO, which I know is not going to be shared with the majority, the new Mazda6 is just another midsize Accord/Atlima/Camry clone as it is much more similar to it's competitors now than the previous generation 6 was to it's competitors.
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Replying to: moparbad (Jul 18, 2008 5:24 am)  . The V6 is a US only engine, which may have something to do with the apparent inefficiency, if it was designed with cheap gas in mind.
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 18, 2008 7:27 am) At least the 2.5L is a huge improvement over previous 2.3L in terms of performance and NVH issues. All reports so far have said the 2.5L feels more than up to the task. The most impressive feature of the new engine is the increase of 24hp and 28lb-ft of torque AND highway mileage improved by 2mpg. The V6 succeeds in matching or beating the other guys in terms of power- compared to the old 3.0L, it gains 60hp and 72lb-ft of torque and fuel economy remains at 17/25. It would be very wise of Mazda to find a way to improve the V6 fuel economy ASAP! The Ford Taurus, which weighs 100 pounds more and uses the 3.5L V6 that the Mazda's 3.7L is based on, manages figures of 18/28. The gains are primarily due to different gearing in the 6-speed automatic. Similar changes to the Mazda6 would hurt performance a little, but the mpg gains would be worth the trade-off. |
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Replying to: igozoomzoom (Jul 19, 2008 11:06 pm)
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I want to hear what the new Mazda 3.7L engine sounds like. Go listen to the sound clips of the Ford Taurus's 3.5L on youtube. I thought that the 2.5L engine in the newer Altima sounds better, let alone all the Japanese 3.5L engines. The V6's from Japanese automakers sound like supercars compared to Ford's 3.5. That being said, I'm sure the 3.7L has more of a sport tuned engine, so surely it has a much throatier engine and exhaust note... Lets hope so.
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Replying to: madpistol (Jul 20, 2008 3:31 pm)  1:30 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF-DMsQjQ5w IMO, it sounds 10x better than the 3.5L Ford engine.
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