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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [akirby]
by backy
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Jul 14, 2008 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 14, 2008 9:17 am)
Is ESC standard on every Fusion and Milan? That is news to me.
This is 2008. Actually 2009 in terms of model years. Look to the right. Four of those cars have ESC standard on every trim line. On 3 others, it's either a readily available option (and was in 2008 or before) or standard, depending on trim line. The slackers? Ford and Nissan.
How many Fusions and Milans have AWD? How many of the popular I4 Fusions and Milans have AWD? Get back to me and talk about AWD when every Fulan has AWD, like Subaru does with the Legacy/Outback.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [akirby]
by imidazol97
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Jul 14, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 14, 2008 9:17 am)
> I guess the other mfrs just don't care enough about safety to put that in their midsize sedans.
I came into the middle of this thread but I want to point out many of us, in the snow area, don't want AWD. If the weather is bad enough to need it as the only way to get around in snow sans judicious, intelligent, physics-based driving techniques, then I am not going to be driving.
The additional weight and the mileage penalty of AWD/4WD systems is some many of us don't want.
I don't think there's a point to alleging that manufacturers don't care about safety.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [kdshapiro]
by akirby
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Jul 14, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 14, 2008 9:36 am)
Yes, I meant Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia.... you get the point.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [backy]
by mtnman1
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Jul 14, 2008 (10:21 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 14, 2008 8:56 am)
Backy I just test drove a Fusion SEL V6 last Friday and I found the HP to be very good matched up with the 6 speed Transmission. It's now become a difficult decision for me between the Sonata Limited V6 and the SEL V6. The deals I've been offered and the Cars are equals as far as I'm concerned. Sonata has them with the fact that they come with stability control and a longer warranty.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [mtnman1]
by backy
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Jul 14, 2008 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: mtnman1 (Jul 14, 2008 10:21 am)
So you like how the 2 cars drive equally well, and the deals are the same, but one car offers electronic stability control and a superior warranty. So... why is that a difficult decision? 
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [backy]
by mz3s
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Jul 14, 2008 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 14, 2008 11:13 am)
Because the man has emotions, that's why. You shouldn't buy a car on paper merit alone, although a lot of people feel you should. Maybe he likes the font on the gauges or the sound of the e-brake better on one car moreso than another.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [mz3s]
by backy
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Jul 14, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: mz3s (Jul 14, 2008 12:17 pm)
Well, he said he likes (implies emotion) both cars equally well. I was taking him at his word. But if the decision is difficult, it's clear that there are other factors at work here.
Personally, I'd take ESC and a longer warranty (and better FE and more power and a more ergonomic control layout and...) over a nicer gauge font, but that's me. 
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by maxamillion1
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Jul 14, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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I think the Fusion gets adjusting rear headrest for 2010 when the car gets facelifted. I saw a set of spy pics that show off the new rear end and you can clearly see that the headrest are adjusted.
And isn't stability control about to be mandatory for all cars next year? If so all cars will end up with it by this time next year.
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Re: [maxamillion1]
by elroy5
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Jul 14, 2008 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Jul 14, 2008 1:52 pm)
And isn't stability control about to be mandatory for all cars next year? If so all cars will end up with it by this time next year.
2012.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [backy]
by mtnman1
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Jul 14, 2008 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 14, 2008 11:13 am)
There are emotions at play here. I kind of like the Fusion's interior and exterior slightly better. I felt the engine power was about equal. It had the upgraded stereo which I felt sounded better, the leather felt like it was a bit better quality, and I like the Sync feature. Like you said it should be a no brainer if it has a better warranty and a more secure vehicle because of ESC. I don't know backy for me it's always been more than just numbers and even facts about a vehicle. I'm 52 and I've made some good decisions and bad decisions in my car purchases. I remember when I was 21 I bought a used Fiat X19 two seat car because I just had to have it because it was so cool to me to drive. I sold a beautifully maintained 1970 Pontiac Firebird that my dad gave me when I graduated from High School in 1974. It was my Dad's car and I was going to Penn State at the time and my Dad was pretty upset when he found out I sold the car to buy the Fiat. I owned it for 9 months, 7 of which were spent sitting at a Fiat Dealers repair shop. I'm going to have to go back and drive the cars some more and Ford will allow me to take one home overnight. As I've gotten older I try to keep my emotions out of the decision making process, but it's tough.
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