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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: [moocow1] by maximafan
Jul 12, 2008 (10:47 pm)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jul 09, 2008 4:24 pm)

LOL!! Back in 2006, I had narrowed it down to the two cars I would have really liked to have parked in my driveway. Talk about cross-shopping, It was between an Acura TL and a Lexus RX350. I ended up with the Lexus.
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2009 Mazda6 pricing by backy
Jul 13, 2008 (4:03 pm)
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I noticed the pricing for the 2009 Mazda6 is up at Edmunds.com. The SV with 6 speed and standard ESC starts at just $19,220, invoice about $1000 under that. Once the rebates hit (and they will eventually due to the competitiveness of the mid-sized market), one should be able to get one for around $17k + T&L, maybe less.
 
Anyone seen or driven a 2009 Mazda6 yet?
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [backy] by maxamillion1
Jul 13, 2008 (5:32 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 13, 2008 4:03 pm)

a few reviews are out, but I don't think the car goes on sale until the end of this month or early next month Backy.
 
Also, I don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but I remember reading somewhere than the SV model is pretty much like the Altima 2.5BASE (not the S) in that it will be stick shift only, special order only and it won't have the trip computer, remote keyless entry or cruise control standard. I'm guessing the SV model will be difficult to find. Most will probably stock the Sport (which I don't think will be a huge seller either) Tourings and Grand Tourings. Aviboy, any idea how the product mix for the new 6 will turn out? Which trim is projected to sell the best? I'm willing to bet its the Touring models.
 
I'm waiting for it to debut since it's basically on my list of family sedans to consider. I'm more interested in the i Touring and Grand Touring sedans though.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [maxamillion1] by backy
Jul 13, 2008 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Jul 13, 2008 5:32 pm)

You're right, no mention of cruise, trip computer, or remote locking in Edmunds' specs. But it seems pretty well equipped otherwise. Not sure why they bother to market a new mid-sized car design without features that are commonplace even on compacts these days, unless they just want to be able to advertise "2009 Mazda6 starting at under $20,000!"
 
At least it has standard ESC even on the lowest trim level, something the Altima 2.5 and several other mid-sizers do not have standard across the board.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [backy] by maxamillion1
Jul 14, 2008 (12:03 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 13, 2008 6:09 pm)

I'd agree...the model probably exist for advertising purposes and probably won't sell in large quantities (like the new Maxima S model or say the Camry CE)
 
I'm wondering what Nissan is gonna do with the Altima. If Nissan follows tradition, we'll be seeing the facelifted Altima at Chicago in Feb. There are already rumors about the changes expected to take place on the 2010 Camry (LED's at the rear, available factory XM, wider variety of push button start, revised interior with better materials and facelifted front and rear) so I'm eager to see what Nissan does to the Altima.
 
Hopefully it'll get LEDs, revised better wheels and Stability control standard, along with some adjustable rear headrest too. I can't believe Nissan still doesn't utilize adjustable rear headrest on the Altima.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [maxamillion1] by backy
Jul 14, 2008 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Jul 14, 2008 12:03 am)

Maybe they are in cahoots with Ford. I don't think the Fulan has adjustable rear headrests either. And it's finally getting stability control as an option for 2009. Clearly safety is not a big concern for Nssan or Ford.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [backy] by akirby
Jul 14, 2008 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 14, 2008 6:23 am)

If lack of adjustable rear headrests is the only safety item you can nitpick on - I think that says a lot.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [akirby] by backy
Jul 14, 2008 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 14, 2008 6:59 am)

I don't think lack of electronic stability control is "nit picking".
 
Maybe Ford figures their engines in the Fulan are so sluggish, back seat riders don't have to worry about whiplash anyway.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [backy] by akirby
Jul 14, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 14, 2008 7:56 am)

But they have it now, so why continue to bring that up? It wasn't an industry standard in this class when they designed the Fusion back in 03-04 and the lack of 4 channel ABS prevented it from being easily added.
 
AWD can increase safety in inclement weather - I guess the other mfrs just don't care enough about safety to put that in their midsize sedans.
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Re: 2009 Mazda6 pricing [akirby] by kdshapiro
Jul 14, 2008 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 14, 2008 8:17 am)

I guess the other mfrs just don't care enough about safety to put that in their midsize sedans.
 
You mean other than VW or Subaru.

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