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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [moocow1] by briansh
Jul 07, 2008 (1:43 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jul 05, 2008 1:51 pm)

Actually Hyundai/Kia is more like one company. Hyundai holds 38% of Kia shares and more importantly, they share their main R&D center. So they are like two brothers in a family.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [moocow1] by 2002slt
Jul 07, 2008 (5:31 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jul 05, 2008 12:45 am)

Hmm, I found the prius legroom wasn't very good either.
 
I agree... I'm 6' 4" and as soon as I sat in it to test drive, I knew it wasn't going to happen. The only way is if they allowed the seat to move back more. There's plenty of room, but it stops way too short.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [2002slt] by backy
Jul 07, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: 2002slt (Jul 07, 2008 5:31 am)

I think we were talking about back seat legroom, but allowing enough leg room for a 6'4" driver and a similarly-sized passenger sitting behind him/her is a tall order (no pun intended) for most mid-sized cars. In many mid-sizers, I have just enough room for sitting behind myself, and I'm 6" shorter. Even in mid-sizers with good rear legroom, e.g. Accord, Camry, Fulan, Optima, and Sonata, that would be a very tough test.
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09 Mazda6 invoice pricing... by maxamillion1
Jul 08, 2008 (9:23 pm)
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...is up on cars.com
 
Not half bad.
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Re: Toyota Prius, the Most Fuel-Efficient Midsize Car In America? [addisonbrown] by jeffyscott
Jul 09, 2008 (3:59 am)
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The EPA rating is actually 48/45 mpg for the Prius according to EPA (one of the few entities that thinks that this compact is a mid-size ).
 
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bestworst.shtml
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Time for EPA approved Midsize forum 3.0? by jeffyscott
Jul 09, 2008 (4:22 am)
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In addition to the Prius the following are midsize according to EPA:
 
Nissan Versa
Nissan Sentra
Hyundai Elantra
Kia Spectra
Dodge Caliber
(Apparently Nissan makes only midsize cars, as the Altima and Maxima are also midsize)
 
In a new EPA approved Midsize Sedan forum 3.0, these cars would be included and "large" cars such as the Accord and Sonata would be kicked out and have to find a place in the EPA approved large car forum.
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Re: Time for EPA approved Midsize forum 3.0? [jeffyscott] by thegraduate
Jul 09, 2008 (4:26 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 09, 2008 4:22 am)

Call me crazy, but comparing cars that are similar in price, purpose, power, and size (yes, including the stragglers of the class, Accord, G6, Sonata, etc) make a lot more sense than bringing in vehicles costing sometimes only 40% of what midsize cars in the classic sense actually cost.
 
Surely you agree that including the Sonata and Accord and excluding the Versa, Caliber, etc. makes for a more useful thread than if it were the other way around?
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Re: Time for EPA approved Midsize forum 3.0? [thegraduate] by mz6greyghost
Jul 09, 2008 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 09, 2008 4:26 am)

Call me crazy, but comparing cars that are similar in price, purpose, power, and size (yes, including the stragglers of the class, Accord, G6, Sonata, etc) make a lot more sense than bringing in vehicles costing sometimes only 40% of what midsize cars in the classic sense actually cost.
 
Not crazy at all. In fact, despite the EPA's "classification", the vast majority think of cars such as the Camry, Accord, Altima, and Sonata when the word "midsize" is used. Not the Versa, Elantra, and Prius.
 
Let's stick with what works, shall we?
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Re: Time for EPA approved Midsize forum 3.0? [thegraduate] by jeffyscott
Jul 09, 2008 (4:37 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 09, 2008 4:26 am)

Oh, I absolutely agree...sarcasm was my intent there.
 
I'm pointing out the silliness (IMO) of using EPAs classifications. We could have a forum just to compare the 4 Nissan midsizes. Hmm...let's see should I buy a Versa or a Maxima, they are both midsizes and I just can not decide between them .

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