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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [moocow1]
by tenpin288
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Jul 05, 2008 (4:58 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jul 05, 2008 12:43 am)
No joke...
2007 Global Auto sales
2007 Global Sales Rankings
1. Toyota 9,366,000
2. GM 8,902,252
3. Volkswagen 6,191,618,
4. Ford 5,964,000
5. Hyundai-Kia 3,961,629
6. Honda 3,831,000
7. Nissan 3,675,574
8. PSA/Peugeot 3,428,400
9. Chrysler 2,676,268
10. Fiat 2,620,864
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- #10116 of 13351
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [tenpin288]
by aviboy97
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Jul 05, 2008 (5:17 am)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Jul 05, 2008 4:58 am)
I'm pretty surprised at Volkswagen. Does that total number include Audi and Porsche? Considering VW by themselves only sell about 200K units in America, it would seem that they dominate the rest of the world with over 6 million units sold.
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- #10117 of 13351
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [aviboy97]
by m6user
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Jul 05, 2008 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 05, 2008 5:17 am)
I think it would include all brands under the corporate umbrella. Lexus with Toyota, Acura with Honda. I would imagine GM includes Hummer. You can guess what that brand is adding to the numbers right now.
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- #10118 of 13351
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [tenpin288]
by kdshapiro
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Jul 05, 2008 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Jul 05, 2008 4:58 am)
But when one narrows that down to the North American market I will bet the numbers look very very different.
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- #10119 of 13351
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [kdshapiro]
by joe97
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Jul 05, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 05, 2008 8:18 am)
Not that different. Few companies would switch (i.e. VW, Honda), and Hyundai would be 7th behind the big six of US and Japanese makers.
FWIW, last month, Hyundai/Kia outsold Nissan/Infiniti in the US for the first time (78,325 vs. 75,847).
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- #10120 of 13351
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [aviboy97]
by jeffyscott
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Jul 05, 2008 (11:52 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 05, 2008 5:17 am)
Yeah, I think VW at #3 is surprising to us Americans, since they only have like 3% of the market here. They are probably #1 in Europe, though. I would guess they also sell a lot in Mexico and South America.
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- #10121 of 13351
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [jeffyscott]
by joe97
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Jul 05, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 05, 2008 11:52 am)
China is another market VW does well.
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- #10122 of 13351
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [tenpin288]
by moocow1
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Jul 05, 2008 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: tenpin288 (Jul 05, 2008 4:58 am)
Ok that's a giant difference from what I thought the comparison was. Which is US sales, hyundai only vs honda. Not Hyundai/Kia global vs Honda global. You gotta remember, Hyundai and Kia add up to almost double the sales from the two brands and two sets of almost complete car lines. It's kinda how GM was keeping ahead of Toyota until Toyota started getting giant sales on most of their models. Yes Hyundai/Kia is huge worldwide, but they're not quite so huge domestically. And Honda is huge here, and not so huge elsewhere.
Personally I almost consider Kia and Hyundai to be seperate. It's similar to like how Mazda and Ford are.
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- #10123 of 13351
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [moocow1]
by bhmr59
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Jul 05, 2008 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: moocow1 (Jul 05, 2008 1:51 pm)
How about Acura, which is included in Honda? Lexus, which is included in Toyota? Mercury & Lincoln which are included in Ford? And all the brands (some of which are not sold here) which are included in GM?
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- #10124 of 13351
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How about
by pat HOST
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Jul 05, 2008 (3:39 pm)
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How about we come on back to the midsize sedans that seem to be our specific topic before we drift too far away?
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