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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr
by akirby
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Jul 03, 2008 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 03, 2008 9:49 am)
I said they were refitting truck and suv plants to make more cars and you implied that they were only doing this in Mexico, which isn't true.
You also conveniently forget that Ford moved Focus production OUT of Mexico and BACK to the U.S. exclusively back in 2005. It works both ways.
One reason they build vehicles in Mexico is because they can be exported to Latin and South America without tariffs or restrictions.
Don't gripe about the Fiesta not being built in the U.S. while the Fit, Yaris, Versa and almost all other B cars are also imported. I'm tired of seeing Ford get bashed while the imports get a free pass for doing the SAME THING.
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- #10083 of 10961
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr [akirby]
by captain2
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Jul 03, 2008 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Jul 03, 2008 9:57 am)
well don't get too tired of watching Ford get bashed - they deserve it for putting more Americans out of work than any other American based Co. (I can think of) They could have refitted one of the dozens of US plants they have recently closed to build the 'new' subcompact but no-o-o , let's support the Mexican economy. Toyota, Nissan, and Hyundai, for example, can spend literally billions building plants all over this country not to mention provided tens of thousands of employed taxpayers. Right now and apparently in the future the only country that may benefit from Ford's existence is probably Mexico - economically Ford probably does more damage than good in this country, and it's getting worse.
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- #10084 of 10961
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [kdshapiro]
by backy
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Jul 03, 2008 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 03, 2008 7:36 am)
Thanks for the update on the Accord. I had no idea they were all selling for at least MSRP, since this is not a tough market for selling them.
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by thegraduate
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Jul 03, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 03, 2008 11:22 am)
I'm reading lots of stories on the Accord Prices-Paid and Buying Experience forum about Accords for at least $2,000 under sticker. 
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [jeffyscott]
by backy
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Jul 03, 2008 (11:30 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Jul 03, 2008 8:23 am)
So now it comes down to how wide a car is inside? If someone is tall, or of someone needs to carry two long-legged adults in back frequently, interior height or legroom could be more important than width.
But if width is important, then I guess the Elantra is definitely mid-sized. It is within fractions of an inch of the width inside of the Mazda6. Plus the Elantra has more front leg room than the Mazda6.
If you really need those extra inches of steel and plastic outside to call your car "mid-sized", go ahead. To me, it's what's inside that counts.
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- #10087 of 10961
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [thegraduate]
by backy
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Jul 03, 2008 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 03, 2008 11:26 am)
That seems very odd, since apparently this is not a challenging market for the Accord. Why would dealers give discounts like that on Accords when they don't have to? 
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- #10088 of 10961
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr
by akirby
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Jul 03, 2008 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 03, 2008 10:42 am)
I'm not even going to respond to such a ridiculous statement. Go find the number of vehicles produced in the U.S. and the total number of people employed by Ford, Honda and Toyota (including sales and service) and report back.
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- #10089 of 10961
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by thegraduate
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Jul 03, 2008 (11:34 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 03, 2008 11:32 am)
Perhaps the poster is a little optimistic about the model of car they drive.
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- #10090 of 10961
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Re: The Prius is not a midsize [backy]
by 2002slt
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Jul 03, 2008 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: backy (Jul 03, 2008 11:32 am)
That seems very odd, since apparently this is not a challenging market for the Accord. Why would dealers give discounts like that on Accords when they don't have to?
I was offered one at invoice. Decided the more than $5k savings for a similarly equipped Sonata was a much better deal.  Not to mention I perfer the Sonata's driveability over the Accord's.
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- #10091 of 10961
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Re: Dismal Chevy Malibu Sales[mz6greyghost] [thegraduate] [captain2] [thegr
by aviboy97
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Jul 03, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (Jul 03, 2008 10:42 am)
Lets not forget why the domestic brands are having trouble financially. It is not just from lack of product sales, but how much money they have to pay out to the money grubbing UAW Union!!!!! Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai workers here in the U.S. are not members of the UAW, and therefor, are not financially strained by the 85yr olds collecting benefits, pension and other little perks for being a fender stamper 40 years ago. Lets be real here, until the domestics can get rid of the UAW, they will never survive, regardless of how much they improve their product.
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